> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> No, the thing is we need not leave at all, since we are not alone in the
> >>>>>> camp of wanting to stop the federalism. As for immigration, No difference
> >>>>>> will be seen as has been mentioned elsewhere, if we trade with other
> >>>>>> countries they will want their labour force to be able to come here.
> >>>>>> Brian
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem there was that we werentl; allowed to traxde with other countires were we, unless the EU gave their OK. That is why rather than importing doctors and nurses from india we had to take on car cleaners from the EU.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is nothing in EU rules stopping us from importing doctors and
> >>>> nurses from anywhere in the world and nothing to say we have to give
> >>>> jobs to citizens from other EU countries.
> >>>
> >>> So what does the3 free movement of people mean within the EU ? > >>
> >> It means citizens of other are free to travel to Britain to work. It
> >> does not mean they are guaranteed jobs when they get here.
> >
> > So people that haven't jobs can come to the UK but not from ROTW.... >
> That is not what you asked and not what I said.
So back and check what was said and what was asked. The EU & ROTW are presented with difernt criteria for how or whether they stay in the UK, I thought you would have know that.
> Thats how the carers I knew got their jobs they'd heard about there being plenty of care jobs in the UK so came over to get a job.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> As it's linked with free trade.
> >>>
> >>> And if the UK wishes to keep immigration down then how does it do this with between 100,000 & 300,000 which arrive from the EU every year.
> >>> That was what D. camooron said immigration to less than 100,000 a year... > >>
> >> That is a net migration target and net migration from non-EU countries, > >
> > No it was for all countries that;s why it was called the immigration figures. >
> I didn't say it wasn't, which would be clear if you looked at the whole
> sentence, instead of chopping it up into bits and taking the bits out of > context.
I didn't and the meaning remains the same.
There is a differnce between EU and the commonwealth and teh RORW when it come to immigration and that is why some countries need visa and others don't.
Whn was the last time yuo wnet outside the UK ?
Did you need some sort of health insurance, if so why. Did you need a visa if so why ?
>> which we have always had complete control over,
> >
> > We have no control over those from the EU.
>
> Nor should we want it.
Why not.
They each generate around £2,300 per annum more
> for the exchequer than native UK citizens.
If you believe that you;'ll believe anything won't you.
How about the romanian that came over and said he could do any job, couldn't get a job and was homeless so he went to the council who said they couldn't house him. So he sent for his wife and 3 kids who joined him in the UK. The council them gave them a 4 bed house. So how does a car cleaner who's unemployed be able to afford a 4 bed house with 3 kids going to school and a wife who doesn't speak English afford such things and generate £2,300 pa ?
Care to show the maths.