OT: tires

Sep 19, 2019 Last reply: 6 years ago 249 Replies
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As always, you prove that your thinking is blinkered. Try reading,and properly comprehending, what I wrote in response to your long drawn out post.

Er, cyclists seem to be the worst from being isolated from the outside world. They are the only people on the road who don't need to obey any traffic rules and once they put on the lycra and enter the road racing mode are completely oblivious to any other road user.

Because?

I did and I change nothing.

Cheers, T i m

Ok .. ?

Unfortunately those people don't represent the spirit of cycling and how 'cyclists' are generally exposed to drivers of vehicles (even those the Lycra boys are also), not helped by how isolated they are now in their mobile lounges. They are unrepresentative as football hooligans are to football supporters or fanatic Brexiteers are to ordinary coin-tossing Leave voters. ;-)

You only have to see how bad the effect is when you observe how many drivers deal with an emergency vehicle ... often because they don't hear it over their HiFi till it's in their boot. ;-(

When in the kitcar you are very aware of everything around you (like many of the cars I've had before) and so I believe makes you more 'aware'.

To a greater degree with a motorbike and further on a cycle.

Cheers, T i m

because your view is too narrow.

You fail to comprehend simple English then. Maybe this will help? They do, but if you want to waste your time worrying about it...

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Ironic.

Ok ...

I think you might be the one with a poor comprehension of these things.

1) I'm not 'worried' about it.

2) I am concerned about it.

3) This is a 'discussion group' and I was discussing it.

4) I don't think many of those who are sitting in idling vehicles think about or worry about it. They are probably too ignorant to even realise it's antisocial (and illegal?).

The last one I saw the occupants were also smoking, had the windows open and the radio on loud and the headlights on (right outside some houses), whilst facing the wrong way on the (unlit) road, at night.

Oh, and they were bound to just throw their dog-ends out on the road / pavement, making it a 'full house'.

Cheers, T i m

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Ah, so you are saying that's why you were confused as to my interest in such. That's fine, we all make mistakes. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

So, besides having perfect tyres, and a perfect tool kit, you are a perfect driver.

I read somewhere that if on the front you might need to replaced both?

Speaking to the guy who supplies Punctureseal about it's use with / in runflats and he confirmed there was no (practical) issue and would serve the same purpose as in std tyres, eg, Not having to suffer a puncture in the first place, and / or risk further damage to a tyre that could have been 'repaired' traditionally but has to be written off because of damage from overheating (blistering / bulges) etc.

Cheers, T i m

Considering it weighs 1.4x what a 4 door Minor weighs that's pretty impressive. If it weighed the same it would be nearer 75mpg and that's twice what a Minor could achieve.

Not me chum, I buy second hand, ex-lease, repos etc. and let someone else take the big hit.

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Are you suffering with some sort of self esteem issues Brian, the way you keep making cr*p up and suggesting people are saying what they aren't?

Have a read of this and see if you can spot any parallels.

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I can see why you might make stuff up mind, you being like a sniper using bollox for ammunition. ;-)

I have puncture resistant tyres, the tyres themselves are just Firestones (chosen specifically for characteristics that I consider important, like wet weather grip but potentially far from 'perfect'), I said I carry a spattering of tools and handy bits and that I try to consider others when driving ... ?

If you don't have any of those things then there is nothing stopping you getting them and taking some extra lessons and / or trying to be a considerate driver etc?

But still read that test thing before you reply, so you might consider what lies you try to make up first. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

Interesting. My father was a commercial vehicle salesman, and had the very first OHV Minor in Scotland - I can just remember seeing the actual car on a stand at the Glasgow motor show in 1953. An 803cc model.

He kept a log of everything, car wise. And in the 3 years and some 40,000 miles he had it, it averaged just over 50 mpg. Of course roads were clearer then - but also much slower. No motorways or even long dual carriageways. I doubt he was a gentle driver, as it needed an engine rebuild at some 30,000 miles. And a new set of tyres.

But what if you (or an agent on your behalf) doesn't need to 'repair the puncture' because the tyre repairs itself? And I'm not talking specifically of any pre-emptive sealant here, but a tyre that can heal itself as I believe they have some synthetic material already doing?

What about the rules that state the tyres must be the right size for your vehicle and / or fitted in pairs yet you can drive (up to 50mph is it and only in the dry?) on a tiny spacesaver but how far, over how many days? [1]

Or use the 'emergency' gunge that I believe comes with cars that don't have a spare? 1 mile maximum at 30 mph, 10 miles at 40, unlimited at

50mph max?

Or people who buy the cheapest tyres they can and because they are made of Teflon, slide into you (or a bus stop) in the wet?

Cheers, T i m

[1] Another poxy EU restriction. When we are out we can drive on spacesaver wheels as fast as we like! <rolls eyes>
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I was always advised against tyre rotation as a means of spreading the wear around because it would accelerate the wear overall.

The logic being a tyre initially 'wears in' quickly to it's specific role (inside outside, front / back) and so if you them move it into a different position with a different wear profile, it will 'wear in'

*again*, accelerating the wear of the set as a whole?

So rather than say 10% initial wear quickly and the remaining 90 slowly, you get a rapid 10% then another rapid 10% etc. Assuming the wheel geometry and the tyre pressures are right, the tyre should then wear fairly evenly till it's reached the lower tread limits.

So, I replace the front tyres on most / all of the (4 wheel) vehicles I've ever had more often than the rear [1] and similarly on motorcycle but the other way round. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[1] Dad who owned the Meriva before Mum gave it to me when he died can't have rotated the tyres either because when I checked them a while ago they were probably the originals on the rear as they had the same date as the car reg and still had reasonable tread! I replaced the set as the fronts needed doing anyway but I don't think they will last as long on the rear now I'm driving it. ;-(

It was once. ;-)

I think you'll find it was *actually* 82, even if they call it 80, I believe the norm is currently 55. Even our Meriva runs 65's.

I think you have to go 50 or below to get a 'low profile' these days.

Cheers, T i m

55 may be the norm, but it is not "normal" - omission of the profile in the tyre description (often on the tyre as well) does mean 80% by default according to the standard.

SteveW

82%, yes and that's what I said but that's not what I was referring to with the bit you seem to be replying to? 55 is both the norm and therefore 'normal' as the word would be typically used in the context given. I didn't suggest it was the default profile for a tyre not marked with a profile.

HTH ;-)

Cheers, T i m

I ran across a car that didn't a new Fiat 500 (my cousins) when their tyre pressure sensor was playing up. Had to go online to look it up since they didn't have the users manual in the car (or a foot pump).

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