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Dont use gentoo linux.

Dennis haspicked the most complicated and geeky distro to make you think all Linux is like that.

I think he is probably a certified Microsoft engineer and is scared of loosing his job.

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The Natural Philosopher
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Is still true today.

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You really tell some porkies don't you?

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The Natural Philosopher

Well you have been busy denying tje problems that Windows has and stating all sorts of problems that Linux doesn't have.

Why you feel the need to lie so blatant5ly is rather puzzling - do you actually care?

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The Natural Philosopher

I have never had to. It comes as standard the moment you specify which language you want to have as standard.

The amount you simply don't know about Linux is only exceeded by the amount to simply don't know about windows.

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The Natural Philosopher

Why should that be of interest?

If the same app runs on windows and linux, that one more reason to run linux, since windows doesn't actually work.

Of course the one app i wouldn't be without is MATE.

Then there's cron, syslog, and ysefil stuff like that.

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The Natural Philosopher

depends how small you are going. Slab/phone/router that's linux. Or a derivative thereof (busybox/android etc).

If you are going so small you can't run Linux, you probably aren't using an ARM chip anyway - more like PIC or Atmel

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The Natural Philosopher

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Charles Hope

A reboot isn't needed every time.

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F

Or sometimes the manned tills in Sainsbury, that are closed.

Because of these embedded XP systems, security updates will be available for XP for around another 4 years. It simply requires a registry hack to convince the OS that its running Windows Embedded POSReady 2009, a variant of XP that's used by ATMs and cash registers Apparently without ill effect.

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michael adams

I never said it was. But it is needed if you replace a DLL that is in use by a fundamental part of windows

The link to the 2014 document by Microsoft that explains why, I posted earlier.

Widows doesn't lock disk image files that way - it takes a copy of them and indeed its possible to still access a file that is still open after its been 'deleted' .

THis was a problem that was solved way back when UNIX was written as a result of situationist that had arisen in earlier multi tasking operating systems. Windows was never a multi-tasking operating system until IIRC win 98 or thereabouts.

Likewise the security aspects of 500+ users as distinct from one sysadmin are built into Unix in a way that windows never really got on top of.

That why linux - which copied the Unix model - is fundamentally secure and windows is fundamentally insecure, And why Unix derived file systems can cope with millions of reads erases and writes without needing 'de fragging'.

I could go pon about te way memory is handled, so that Linux doesn't 'run out of memory' nearly as easily as windows, about proper pre-emptive multi tasking that means its hard for one user level application to crash the whole machine, and so on...

Windows is like a Lamborghini built on a tractor chassis. It fools some peoole, but its will always be a tractor.

Linux is 100 times more professional in every respect bar marketing. After all, why market something that is never sold?

Its written by professionals for professionals. Windows is written by amateurs for amateurs.

The fact that there are 1000 times more amateurs than professionals is why it still exists

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The Natural Philosopher

There is the issue of perception. However, that can work both ways. In my case, because I was *anticipating* a boost in performance out of my five yearly major MoBo/CPU/RAM hardware upgrades (staying with win95 and then win2k), I would often feel underwhelmed at the performance boost.

There was no denying the boost in performance, I just wasn't as impressed as I'd hoped to be. It was only *after* using the new setup for a while before checking out the 'hand me down' that the old components had become part of (by way of a nostalgia trip) that I then realised how much better the new hardware was compared to the old. The old setup was just as fast as it had ever been but compared to the new hardware, it seemed so much slower than I'd fondly remembered it.

This is often the case with a new PC/laptop running MSFT windows but MSFT craftily added a few 'nonsense' system tuning options using defaults designed to swiftly bring the performance to a state of decrepitude.

The most notable of these being in regard of the "pagefile" (swap space on the hard drive used to provide a virtual ram expansion). The default was 'System managed (recommended)' whereby windows selected the "optimum" size of this system file moment by moment.

The other options included the manual setting of the minimum and maximum limits of the pagefile size. Here, you could emulate a *nix type setting whereby both were set to the same value, typically 1.5 to 2 times whatever real RAM was installed on the MoBo as a general 'rule of thumb'.

The important point here,being to set the min and max to the same size so as to create a fixed sized pagefile that *didn't* emulate the Oprah Winfrey Virus and spread itself out in fragments across the whole partition space on the hard drive. This meant that free space would then become fragmented, aggravating the fragmentation hell that was the result of all those endless windows updates and patches that were being so generously supplied by MSFT 'out of the goodness of their hearts'.

There were other 'default' settings (typically also described by MSFT as 'recommended') which the end user could change to improve both performance and security but I'm not going to try and list them here.

If you changed the pagefile settings from 'kakamaimee' to 'sensible' immediately on accepting the EULAs on a new machine with the inevitable pre-installation of MSFT windows (or after doing your own 'clean install' of windows), the system performance would hold up for a lot longer (especially if you removed 'crapware' (or just didn't inflict it on yourself in the first place).

It's not so much a case of 'getting used to it' as a very real slow down induced by pagefile fragmentation and fragmentation in general from the inevitable churn of updated system files from the never ending updates supplied by MFST.

Now that more and more new PCs (and laptops in particular) are being supplied with SSDs in place of, or in addition to HDDs, this strategy of "Making the Hardware become tired out before its time" in order to increase sales of new hardware (and EULs) has become less effective.

However, the predatory practices of the advertising industry using malware techniques to turn the consumer driven PC/Laptop into a version of Commercial TV on steroids has come to the rescue of the "Wintel" corporation. The practice of the major OEMs in inflicting unwanted crapware also aids the Wintel cause, along with the consumers' own propensities to self affliction with even more dubious software available for free from off of the internet.

That's so true, it's not even funny.

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Johnny B Good

Congratulations indeed!

You've managed one paragraph at least, that isn't incomprehensible gibberish

namely -

"Everyone who still reading this thread" presumably including all the Windows users who have participated.

So are you really sure about that ? That you're now speaking on behalf of numerous Windows users as well ?

As to whether I'm a total plonker, to be really honest with you, you don't seem to have acquitted yourself very well in that regard either, today. From what I can see, at least.

And of course, it goes without saying that you've completely missed the point of the exchange between Timmy and myself. Might I humbly suggest you go and have a little lie-down before you further embarrass yourself ?

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michael adams

So its a spiel chucker that doesn't work then.

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dennis

What lies? I have stated facts and while you can have your own opinion the facts stay the same.

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dennis

What does busybox have to do with linux? Its a piece of open source software that runs as a shell with some built in commands not an OS.

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dennis

More lies. You have the nerve to accuse me of being a liar and you come out with cr@p like that. You may as well stop posting as nobody will believe a word you say.

Since when has a windows manager been an app? It doesn't do anything useful.

But they run on windows.

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dennis

Because it isn't rubbish.

Ah, the "because there are more windows users than Linux users, windows is attacked because it's the biggest target" trotted out by ignorant windows users.

Myth: Windows only gets attacked most because it's such a big target, and if Linux use (or indeed OS X use) grew then so would the number of attacks.

Fact: When it comes to web servers, the biggest target is Apache, the Internet's server of choice. Attacks on Apache are nevertheless far fewer in number, and cause less damage. And in some case Apache-related attacks have the most serious effect on Windows machines. Attacks are of course aimed at Windows because of the numbers of users, but its design makes it a much easier target, and much easier for an attack to wreak havoc. Windows' widespread (and often unnecessary) use of features such as RPC meanwhile adds vulnerabilities that really need not be there. Linux's design is not vulnerable in the same ways, and no matter how successful it eventually becomes it simply cannot experience attacks to similar levels, inflicting similar levels of damage, to Windows.

There are /no/ AV apps /specifically/ for Linux. The AV apps which can be installed from the distro's repositories are to detect /Windows/ malware.

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Although Linux is inherently more secure than Windows, Linux programs can have security holes too. These are usually fixed promptly, so keep the system up to date. The four steps of blocking at the router, disabling unnecessary services, running a firewall and keeping your software updated will mean you can safely use the Internet with confidence.

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J.B.Treadstone

I only correct your errors and lies. I use linux more than windows but I use whats best for the job not linux because its free. A lot of people can't use your universal solution because linux doesn't work for everything and you shouldn't keep lying about it doing so.

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dennis

I have listed several things that don't work on linux in this thread, you haven't offered any solution and wont because they don't work on linux unless you write something to make them work.

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dennis

Liar.

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dennis

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