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Hi Guys
I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us. I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and slower.
Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the nightmare of having to do a new install?
Anyone on here tried it?
Gary
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On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:

> Buy an SSD drive. Your computer will fly along in comparison to a standard mechanical HDD.
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On 20/04/2015 14:45, Bod wrote:

Generally, +1.
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On 20/04/15 15:42, RJH wrote:

Yes. Linux on SSD tales about 2.5 seconds to boot from selecting it at GRUB level, to having a GUI login prompt..
more like 25 secs from SATA..spinning rust...
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:51:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

:-)
Depending on how often you boot it may not be worth a lot of effort just to save 22.5 seconds once in a blue moon.
If mission critical software runs faster, of course.....
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On 20/04/15 16:13, David wrote:

the most noticeable thing is that if you are RAM limited and cant hold every program you might want in RAM permanently, *they* load up a lot faster as well.
I haven't checked out swap speed up, but that to must be fairly massive

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On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:17:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

IIRC you are advised to avoid swapping on an SSD as this ups the wear and shortens the service life.
If you are running out of RAM and can't get any more in, then the system is probably not suited to the workload.
I know that back in the day swapping/paging was necessary because of the high cost of memory, but these days you should be able to run most things without having to swap.
There was a period when XP systems ran into glue because they were sold with 521 KB and worked fine until creeping bloat filled all the memory.
At that point, upgrading to 1 GB suddenly speeded the system up again.
These days you need more - my system is using 4.1 GB of the 6 GB available but this is probably due to me having a large number of tabs open in Chrome.
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On 20/04/2015 16:13, David wrote:

The big gain is in application and library load times rather than boot time. Yes boot is faster, but you don't do that nearly as often. Having Word etc load in around 0.5 secs each time you open a doc soon adds up to a big saving in your time. PS CS5.1 x64 loads in 3 secs. Firefox in under 1 sec etc.
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Aren't they just best thing I ever did was to fir a SSD, machine now positively flies even using the much derided winders 7 Pro..
That and 100 meg broadband, anything elsewhere I have to use feels rather tardy by comparison...
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On Monday, 20 April 2015 15:51:42 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

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I believe that most Linux OSs are immune to fragmentation. I gather Microso ft is always in need of a defrag. I presume the OP has already tried physic ally cleaning the machine to stop over heating and thae various other trick s to speed upi things like gettng a second drive.
Filling a drive if it's your only drive is rather silly but the OP is a Mic rosfty!
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You're wrong on that last. I don't bother to defrag and since the main machine is the PVR now, that is potentially the worst situation for fragmentation, very large files with very little free space with new very large files written daily.
And fragmentation won't be the reason for the slowdown anyway.

It's very unlikely to be that either.

That makes no difference now either. It was only ever relevant when there wasn't enough physical ram so the system was swapping all the time with drives that didn't seek very fast with lousy thruput.

Works fine.

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Except when they fail of course. I still think there is mileage in cleaning out the dross. Brian
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:10:42 +0100, Gary wrote:

Have you tried any of the usual things - cleaning up old install files from Windows Update and the like?
Windows gradually clogs up and slows down without some housekeeping now and then.
Have you looked at the Performance Monitor to confirm that it is the processor which is being over used? It may be some other component.
*If you have a lot of spare CPU capacity then a faster processor may not solve your problems.
*If you are running out of memory (and therefore swapping to disc) then more memory may solve your problem.
*If your disc is being maxed out then (as already suggested) a faster HDD or an SSD could solve your problem.
For specific advice it would help us if you told us what mother board and processor you currently have, what memory (amount, type, speed), which HDD and how much free space.
If you change mother board Microsoft will regard that as a new computer - so you will have to re-authenticate your OS. So you will need the licence key. I haven't personally re-authenticated a Windows system but I understand that it can be done.
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Those have no effect on the speed of the system.

Like some stupid anti virus.

No it does not.

Yes, its completely trivial to do that.
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On 20/04/2015 15:41, David wrote:

Product activation (most notably on MS Office from 2002 on, and Windows from XP on) will often notice that the the mobo has been changed and require that you reactivate. Normally if some time (several months) has passed since the last time it was activated, then it will often reactivate over the internet without any further problem.
Sometimes however it might refuse and you will need to phone MS. Sometimes the phone based automated activation will then pass it. Other times you may have to go as far as a real person.
What happens then depends on what you say, and what you are activating. In the case of an OEM version of windows (i.e. not one bought at retail) you are in effect in violation of the terms if you are simply "upgrading" a machine - since that in effect is a "new" machine, and OEM copies are supposed to die with the hardware they were shipped on. The exception to this rule is if you are repairing a machine under warranty. So explaining that you have just repaired a customers machine with a new motherboard etc, will normally get them to reactivate.
With retail versions you normally just need to assure them that you only have less than the licensed number of installed copies already, and they will reactivate.
(Note with Office 2013 when it was first released they quietly dropped the retail license terms - forcing OEM terms on all copies. However after a bit of an outcry they backed away from this and the PKC versions (i.e. medialess boxes just with a key card) can be reactivated under retail style licensing now.

In the case of many machines you can simply use the number on the CoA sticker. If you need to recover keys then there are various utils out there like magical jelly bean and produ key that will recover the original key from the installation.
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http://dazloader.com/
Works a treat.
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Where and which old install files that slow the system down?
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On 22/04/2015 12:11, AnthonyL wrote:

Look for windows.old files and delete them. They are simply a waste of space are not needed.
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But won't be slowing the system down.
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On 22/04/2015 13:22, Rod Speed wrote:

> That depends on how much space is left. Windows systems are well known to slow down a computer when there's little space left on a HDD.
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