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[dennis]

He asked for a source copy and gentoo is by far the easiest way to get it and compile it. You sound like you know very little about linux and I suggest you try it before opening your mouth.

[The Natural Philosopher]

No, its a spell checker that I don't have to accept the results of...

[The Natural Philosopher]

The sheer chutzpah. read the posts where I have explicitly detailed them

No. you have lied, and lied again.

and while you can have your own opinion the facts

Precisely. And the facts are not the same as YOUR opinions. If that is what they are. Frankly I think they are just lies.

[The Natural Philosopher]

But it is the user interface to linux. Not any OS.

"BusyBox has been written with size-optimization and limited resources in mind. It is also extremely modular so you can easily include or exclude commands (or features) at compile time. This makes it easy to customize your embedded systems. To create a working system, just add some device nodes in /dev, a few configuration files in /etc, and a

*Linux kernel*."

So you are lying again. Busybox implies Linux.

[dennis]

List ones that don't.

You mean most linux users limit themselves to cameras that work with linux.

I don't have a nikon so yet again you want to limit users to buying cameras that work with linux.

I notice you snipped the bit about controlling cameras over IP, probably becasue you haven't found one that you can get working under linux. I have but its not really linux its android or windows.

I have bought what does the job I want to do and stuff the OS. If linux doesn't work with it then I use what does. You just buy something else that doesn't do the job and moan about others using software that works.

Maybe I should delete the linux on the 11 devices its running on, or maybe not as I am not irrational like you.

[The Natural Philosopher]

hahahaha.

That is probably true in the case of Windows.

A window manage is a program. You might as well say that a browser isn't an app because it doesn't do anything useful.

not as standard they don't.

And not very well,

[dennis]

So you found one that request a reboot and think that counts as "upgrade of anything" you really are dragging the bottom.

[The Natural Philosopher]

I see. Its NPD again. projecting all; your qualities onto someone else. Get some psychiatric help dennis

I never said it did. So that's another lie..It doesn't wash my snderweae, and it doesn't give me an orgasm.

But apart from that its pretty useful and pretty stable and way more professional than windows

[The Natural Philosopher]

Busybox doesnt work on windows. Mate doesn't work on windows.

So?

[The Natural Philosopher]

You know perfectly well he meant 'where do I find or source a copy'.

[The Natural Philosopher]

If you upgrade a DLL that is in use by a running program in windows you need to reboot mor at leats close that program

In Linux, you don't.

End of.

Linux= professioanl multi user multi tasking Windows = poxy amateur system.

Guess why IBM run code on linux, not on windows, for choice.

[Bob Eager]

It also runs on FreeBSD. Which has a very different kernel.

OK, OK, they are both UNIX-ish (FreeBSD is a UNIX derivative, and Linux is a UNIX work-alike).

But you made a sweeping generalisation.

[J.B.Treadstone]

How ironic.

[Johnny B Good]

Afaicr, the 'annoying' chase its own tale spinning circle replaces the hour glass mouse pointer.

It seems to me that that win8 laptop is infested with malware, PuPs and adware as well as the more mundane fragmented out of all recognition pagefile. BTW, if that laptop is fitted with an SSD, *don't* subject it to routine defragmentation. Otoh, if it's a mere HDD, then defragmentation may do a little bit of good.

I suggest you download:-

SpyBot S&D from

MalwareBytes free antimalware scanner from

and visit: and download "Combofix.exe"

This site is also a good starting point from which to download other useful tools and, likewise, the majorgeeks web site, specifically for ATF Cleaner here:

I'd recommend you save a copy of ATF Cleaner and ComboFix to the desktop, run ATF cleaner first, then disable your AV's active protection before launching ComboFix which will scan for and remove malware and trojans your AV program (and the other 54 varieties of AV software) seem so blissfully unaware of.

After that install SpyBot S&D (unchecking the uselsss Teatimer option), update its database and make sure to apply the passive immunization against bad web sites which attempt to hit you with a "Drive by Download" exploit. You can also install Malwarebytes free antimalware on-demand scanner, taking care to uncheck the 'install googlechrome' option (same advice applies with Avast's free AV installer).

Don't be *too* surprised at what unwanted malware, trojans and adware is discovered lurking in the system, just be grateful you were able to winkle most, if not all, of it out. If you're now feeling paranoid about the presence of such a huge parasitic load on the laptop, you can also run other on-demand scanners such as AdwCleaner, Junkware Removal Tool, RKill (and, RogueKiller) and TDSSKiller to name the few I'm familiar with (all of which can be downloaded via the bleepingcomputer.org downloads pages).

Quite often, the only way to be sure of a clean install of windows is to make backup copies of all your important data onto a removable disk (photos, home movies, documents, emails (and address books), bookmarked pages from your favourite web browser(s) and any other crap deemed to be of vital importance before wiping the windows install to either use the recovery/rescue media you created or a proper OEM install DVD of the relevant version of windows (a process referred to as "Nuke and Pave").

Sometimes the quickest way to clear all the malware off of a badly infected system is to simply Nuke and Pave over the old rather than run dozens of different antimalware and AV scanners. Either option is going to be a pain whichever you choose but the obvious starting point is to try and detect and remove the malware before considering the Nuke & Pave option.

[John Rumm]

That's what I love about this group - everyone so helpful ;-)

Or a couple of months worth of windows PC sales... not peanuts, but not big news either. IOS however does much bigger numbers.

[John Rumm]

That is not what he said. He said that most technology buyers will follow the lowest cost path of least resistance that maintains compatibility with their existing investment in content and training.

Indeed it does. That does not mean that all of a sudden LO or OO can run the macros in an excel worksheet though does it?

Being quite familiar with PS I would of course dispute that. Having said that there is not much competition. PCL is hardly worthy of comparison since its so wedded to device space.

Indeed, for pre-press work this is true, but not for general office document transfer alas.

If you are moving docs between the last three versions of MS office its a non issue in real terms. I can't recall the last time a customer has asked me how to load or convert a MS doc format.

With statements like that...

[John Rumm]

Most of the US Navy still runs NT4 ;-)

[John Rumm]

No, we are just shining the light of the real world under the dusty bridge inhabited by the linux trolls.

[The Natural Philosopher]

and instead you found microsoft trolls shivering in fear of their lives.

[Dave Liquorice]

Where does IBM's Presentation Manager running on OS/2 fit into that timeline? By far the most useable GUI that I have played with, actually still use it and OS/2 in preferance to any Windows, Linux or Mac GUI/OS.