OT: Here's a good idea

Let the NHS send the invoices for all the foreigners who come over here for free treatment to the Overseas Aid Department. It would be that department's job to chase the payment. If they didn't get it it would reduce the money we shovel overseas. The invoice would be inflated to well above the actual NHS cost. This idea would relieve the NHS staff of the job of debt collector.
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On Tuesday, 7 February 2017 03:45:42 UTC, Bill Wright wrote:

+1 We should cut all foreign aid anyway. What's the point of borrowing money to give it away?
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On Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:17:28 UTC, harry wrote:

It does keep a lot of civil servants in work.
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On 07/02/17 09:06, snipped-for-privacy@gowanhill.com wrote:

It keeps the New Left alive.
Marx and Spenders
Failing to solve non-existent problems with someone else's money.
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On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 03:45:42 +0000, Bill Wright

That idea was also suggested by a caller to our local radio station down here on the South Coast yesterday. I wonder where it originated and how quick it has spread.
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snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk writes

Many of LBC's phoners-in have been preaching that for weeks (indeed, ever since I can remember).
However, more-reasoned opinion is that while 'every little helps', in the overall scheme of things what we spend on treating deliberate health tourists - and those who need emergency treatment but don't have insurance - is only a drop in the ocean compared with what the NHS actually needs to mend it. Much as we might not like it, there is a good case for increasing taxes and NI contributions. In the meantime, successive governments have simply been issuing statements about how much more they are putting into the NHS, but have otherwise been ignoring the problem. And, of course, for the foreseeable future, their work will be cut out dealing with the Brexit mess.
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On Tuesday, 7 February 2017 11:00:04 UTC, Ian Jackson wrote:

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I'ts NOT a tiny drop though especailly if say you need help and you are leg galy and you nede help of a few £1000 a month for mental health for ON E person even a £1000 is a massive amount for them to find. How much does ONE hospital bed cost is that not a drop in the ocean ? Take all the drops out of the ocean and you don;t have an ocean.
What it really means is that administrators whgile employing more and more for higher and higher saleries just can't do the job.


So we can give even more to health tourists ?
In the meantime,

Yes more on admin , same thing happening here. The more we spend on admin the less on teaching.
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Thick end of £1000 a day.

Care to speculate how much extra work it would be to check the eligibility of every single person who uses the NHS at any time? Do you expect the hospital administrator to do this himself?
Of course like with many things it would be easy to check on those respectable types who know they will be asked. It's those who perhaps are picked up off the street and or don't speak good English that may be rather more difficult. Or those who set out to defraud.
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On Tuesday, 7 February 2017 14:39:11 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

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you assume there's just ONE hospital administrator per hosital. Of course it depends on how you check eligibility, how do they check you i f you go abroad and want medical treatment ?
friends just came back from las palma they needed an insurance form. I thought everyone in or from the UK on going abraod had to sort that out i f you want 'free' treatment. So how do they do this abroad they don't seem to have the same problems do they ?

Why do american express offer a free translation service surley that is a f ree service for everyone like it is here.
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wrote:

In most other European countries the non-locals who don't automatically qualify by birth can be singled out for extra checks because they don't speak the local lingo (FSVO).
That doesn't mean that there isn't a few false positives or false negatives, but the numbers are much lower.
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

    The NHS figure is £4K per day.
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On 07/02/2017 10:59, Ian Jackson wrote:

While I and my family have had good service from the NHS, as a user I can see major inefficiencies. In the last year I have had two non urgent check up appointments in near empty large NHS buildings where the staff outnumber the patients. This is in an area where the local GP practice is beginning to collapse under the number of 'new' patients and routine tests (such as blood tests) can result in a 2 hour wait in the reception areas of the local hospital.
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That has to be unique. How did you know that all the buildings were near empty? When I visit a hospital I have some insight into how busy the department I visit is but know nothing about the rest of the hospital. It wasn;t until Xmas when I had to visit a hospital that I discovered that our local very modern hospital no longer had any beds as a result of a silly rationalisation no doubt based on what politicians had got away with in UK again. The other hospital in the group had no free beds and I was returned home after 8 hours.

In the Netherlands blood tests are done by clinics which are independent of hospitals.
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On 07/02/2017 08:45, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

It's me. I'm psychedelic.
Bill
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On 07/02/2017 23:14, Bill Wright wrote:

Psychic? Psychotic?
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On 08/02/2017 11:38, Max Demian wrote:

No, psychedelic.
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Thought you hated coloureds?
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On 08/02/2017 14:36, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

If you're accusing me of being racist, what makes you think that? Are you too dim to appreciate the difference between concern about immigration levels and racism?
I know you lefties tend to think with a very broad brush but that's a bit ridiculous.
Bill
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On 08/02/2017 19:58, Bill Wright wrote:

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Responding to a question in the House of Lords by Lord Green, the Chair of Migration Watch, the government admitted that half of all houses built in the UK over the next 22 years will go to migrants. Around 243,000 properties need to be built every year, with around half needed to cope with the growing demands from immigration. The figures comes from the Department of Communities and Local Government.
Lord Green told the Upper House:
“To put the point slightly more dramatically, that would mean building a new home every five minutes night and day, for new arrivals until such a time as we can get those numbers down.
“I know there is a strong view in the House that there is a lot to be said for migration. All I am pointing out is that there are also costs.”
Bill
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On Wednesday, 8 February 2017 19:58:56 UTC, Bill Wright wrote:

I see the same thing with sexism and lost of other ism's .
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