Let the NHS send the invoices for all the foreigners who come over here
for free treatment to the Overseas Aid Department. It would be that
department's job to chase the payment. If they didn't get it it would
reduce the money we shovel overseas. The invoice would be inflated to
well above the actual NHS cost. This idea would relieve the NHS staff of
the job of debt collector.
On 07/02/17 09:06, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
It keeps the New Left alive.
Marx and Spenders
Failing to solve non-existent problems with someone else's money.
We woke up just in time.
If the proportion of people who directly or indirectly owe their living
to the whim of the State, exceeds 50%, then we will be locked in to a
Anyone who votes otherwise will be on the sosh in a cardboard hutch in
a sink estate quicker than you can say 'Karl Marx'
The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
Many of LBC's phoners-in have been preaching that for weeks (indeed,
ever since I can remember).
However, more-reasoned opinion is that while 'every little helps', in
the overall scheme of things what we spend on treating deliberate health
tourists - and those who need emergency treatment but don't have
insurance - is only a drop in the ocean compared with what the NHS
actually needs to mend it. Much as we might not like it, there is a good
case for increasing taxes and NI contributions. In the meantime,
successive governments have simply been issuing statements about how
much more they are putting into the NHS, but have otherwise been
ignoring the problem. And, of course, for the foreseeable future, their
work will be cut out dealing with the Brexit mess.
On Tuesday, 7 February 2017 11:00:04 UTC, Ian Jackson wrote:
I'ts NOT a tiny drop though especailly if say you need help and you are leg
galy and you nede help of a few £1000 a month for mental health for ON
E person even a £1000 is a massive amount for them to find.
How much does ONE hospital bed cost is that not a drop in the ocean ?
Take all the drops out of the ocean and you don;t have an ocean.
What it really means is that administrators whgile employing more and more
for higher and higher saleries just can't do the job.
So we can give even more to health tourists ?
In the meantime,
Yes more on admin , same thing happening here.
The more we spend on admin the less on teaching.
Care to speculate how much extra work it would be to check the eligibility
of every single person who uses the NHS at any time? Do you expect the
hospital administrator to do this himself?
Of course like with many things it would be easy to check on those
respectable types who know they will be asked. It's those who perhaps are
picked up off the street and or don't speak good English that may be
rather more difficult. Or those who set out to defraud.
*Why are a wise man and a wise guy opposites? *
Dave Plowman email@example.com London SW
On Tuesday, 7 February 2017 14:39:11 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
you assume there's just ONE hospital administrator per hosital.
Of course it depends on how you check eligibility, how do they check you i
f you go abroad and want medical treatment ?
friends just came back from las palma they needed an insurance form.
I thought everyone in or from the UK on going abraod had to sort that out i
f you want 'free' treatment.
So how do they do this abroad they don't seem to have the same problems do
Why do american express offer a free translation service surley that is a f
ree service for everyone like it is here.
In most other European countries the non-locals who don't automatically
qualify by birth can be singled out for extra checks because they don't
speak the local lingo (FSVO).
That doesn't mean that there isn't a few false positives or false negatives,
but the numbers are much lower.
While I and my family have had good service from the NHS, as a user I
can see major inefficiencies. In the last year I have had two non urgent
check up appointments in near empty large NHS buildings where the staff
outnumber the patients. This is in an area where the local GP practice
is beginning to collapse under the number of 'new' patients and routine
tests (such as blood tests) can result in a 2 hour wait in the reception
areas of the local hospital.
That has to be unique. How did you know that all the buildings were near empty?
When I visit a hospital I have some insight into how busy the department I visit
is but know nothing about the rest of the hospital. It wasn;t until Xmas when I
had to visit a hospital that I discovered that our local very modern hospital no
longer had any beds as a result of a silly rationalisation no doubt based on
what politicians had got away with in UK again. The other hospital in the group
had no free beds and I was returned home after 8 hours.
In the Netherlands blood tests are done by clinics which are independent of
If you're accusing me of being racist, what makes you think that? Are
you too dim to appreciate the difference between concern about
immigration levels and racism?
I know you lefties tend to think with a very broad brush but that's a
Responding to a question in the House of Lords by Lord Green, the Chair
of Migration Watch, the government admitted that half of all houses
built in the UK over the next 22 years will go to migrants. Around
243,000 properties need to be built every year, with around half needed
to cope with the growing demands from immigration. The figures comes
from the Department of Communities and Local Government.
Lord Green told the Upper House:
“To put the point slightly more dramatically, that would mean building a
new home every five minutes night and day, for new arrivals until such a
time as we can get those numbers down.
“I know there is a strong view in the House that there is a lot to be
said for migration. All I am pointing out is that there are also costs.”
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