So where did that vid of the firefighters seeing the whole tower ablaze come from then thats doing the rounds?, or was that maybe a fire engine that was turning up later after the others had got there ?..
Wasn't implied as such... .
Part of the redevelopment round there includes the Nine Elms Northern Line extension, and I think that's where the station is going to be. With another at Battersea Power Station.
Ah - right. So they'll need two toilets in each appliance under dennis's brilliant idea of having them parked up in a car park somewhere ready to go?
Surely you don't think they'd send all those appliances for a simple flat fire? They'd all be getting in one another's way.
The one with the "colourfull" language?
You don't send 40 engines plus support and specialist vehicles to a flat fire, two would be most likely, from different stations.
We don't know what that vehicle was, might have been an aerial platform or other specialist bit of kit, called in later. Or even an engine called from outside the LFB area.
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Don't ask me, they shift 'em about here. What they don't do is randomly drive about the country side, the crew is retained for a start. Not to mention that our engine provides fire cover for 150 to
200 square miles, Best part of half anour to drive across that. The station is fairly central in that area.And remember the closest stations to our station are also single engine/retained. They'll be sent to the incident, only 40 mins for them to arrive once they leave... nearer 50 mins to include the time taken for a retained crew to get to the station kit up and drive out. Cover would have to come from one of the manned stations that has more than one engine, 50 mins to an hour away.
Doesn't work for Ambulances here. The Ambulance Service tried to take our (basic) Ambulance away, they got a bit of a surprise at the communities response. Like Fire Engines an Ambulance coming in from outside would takes about an hour, so much for the "Golden Hour"...
The Ambulance service saw sense, not having an Ambulance here would cost a life and probably within a year. They came up with a new Ambulance and trained volunteers to "Ambulance Techncian 1" (or similar) to be piad a retainer and be on call. I think this is the first retained Ambulance in the country.
In message , at 10:33:03 on Wed, 21 Jun
2017, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked:
There was one parked up in the pub car park near where I live for much of the morning. Inside the pub are two of each (loos).
Very silly that. If you read the 'experts' on here, it should be situated closer to the fire. ;-)
In message , at 10:30:09 on Wed, 21 Jun
2017, tony sayer remarked:
It's a bit unfortunate that the video has had that subtext stripped. They are clearly in a second or even third (given the approach along Westway) wave of engines deployed.
In message , at 13:03:54 on Wed, 21 Jun
2017, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked:They sent arguably too many firemen anyway, as reports indicate that congestion in the stairwell severely limited the number who could be deployed simultaneously inside the building.
In message , at
14:08:33 on Wed, 21 Jun 2017, Dave Liquorice remarked:
My recollection is that in effect retained ambulance staff were invented at least 20 years ago, comprising individuals who are normally employed at a GP practice, who drop everything and man the ambulance that's stationed in their car park.
Now dave will claim they were in the pub skiving rather than admit its a good idea to move services around to reduce response times.
In message , at
14:40:41 on Wed, 21 Jun 2017, "dennis@home" remarked:They were probably doing routine inspections of the pub and several other cafes/restaurants in the vicinity.
And they'll keep the pub open all night for the fire crew?
It well might be a good idea to have more Fire Stations rather than closing them.
But all you seem to want is to make things as uncomfortable as possible for the crew while they are on standby.
I think they would send four or three and half to a fire in a tower block around here. (yes we have halves as in engines based on 4x4s with smaller crews for faster response over congested roads).
I would think it unlikely to be from outside london, You really need specialist training to deal with fires in big tower blocks and it would be miles away before you found any outside london. The most likely thing is the one from outside would go to a fire station in london and the engines from their go to the tower block.
Yes, well if you don't have any permanent fire cover it probably won't work.
Why they are seldom in the best place and the best place changes all the time. Maybe you think they should demolish them and rebuild them somewhere else every six months?
You don't need more fire stations you need to spend the money on providing the service not building garages.
I want them to be where they are going to give the quickest response, you want them to be where they can sit and watch TV.
And I didn't say they would be moving about 24 hrs a day either. At night when the roads are quiet the extra mile from the station isn't going to make much difference most of the time. Having said that its not unreasonable for them to be stationed near a special event like a concert even if it is at night.
You really think a crew forced to stay in their appliance in some car park somewhere are going to be in peak condition to fight a fire? And be able to keep that appliance and its equipment in peak condition too?
If you think all fire crew do is watch TV when not actually fighting a fire you're even dafter than you seem at first.
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