Old tools

As were all those scenery construction crews, according to you.

Now please kindly explain how you used to drive screws with your hand drill.

michael adams

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Bzzt, wrong again. I used hand drills one handed a lot before decent tools came my way. There are at least 2 ways to do it.

I'm not missing that, having lived for decades before cordless tools became affordable that's utterly & totally obvious. What I missed is what's wrong with you.

NT

Oh surely. I hate slotted screws and refuse to go back to using them. They were a curse.

NT

strange, I don't recall claiming that.

I used a mains drill. It doesn't surprise me now that you don't know how.

NT

Whereas claiming that it's a simple matter to use a single speed drill as a screwdriver, and that others could follow your example without risk of either injury or damage is your idea of "useful" is it ?

michael adams

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Go ahead. Explain. I'm all eyes.

michael adams

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Sorry mate I wasn't aware of your condition.

You see you posted the above statement, the second one, not so long ago and you already seem to have forgotten.

Never mind all the other things you must have forgotten as well.

So I'm not sure there's much more I can do here, really.

michael adams

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I buy torx in preference to others these days.

Bionic wrists were standard on all humans back in the 1950s

Yes there were. two speed gearbox.

What was second nature to us immediate post war generation has become feats of impossibly dangerous derring do to the snowfall generation.

You really should move to Denmark.

it is.

where did I claim that? I didn't. No building or diy type operation is free of hazard. Troll on.

NT

exactly. It amazes me how many swear that what I've done is impossible. Michael is one of the less bright ones.

To Mike & your ilk, enjoy failing. I don't plan to join you.

NT

I've just drilled a hole with my granddad's brace and bit to put some gigabit Ethernet through. I still have his power drill too - branded masonmaster - and he died in 1983.

Don't often use it though, the cordless is so much easier.

Andy

In message , Vir Campestris writes

Excellent! It is not often I use the brace and bit, but when needed, it really is very satisfying to use. Grandad was not a DIYer in the Barry Bucknall tart it up sense, but very much in the utility sense. Not that he bodged or anything like that, he just did what he considered necessary rather than pretty. After he retired in '56 I think he was only in the house to eat and sleep; far too busy in the shed, garden or allotment, or walking the dog.

Could you clarify what you men by hand drill?

One of these :

Or by "hand drill" do you mean a hand held mains electric drill?

(just I have never heard anyone suggest that a hand drill would be at all useful for screw driving)

yes

no the hand drill was for drilling & occasionally filing. Mains for screws.

NT

Absolutely agree. I don't use anything else in my 10.8v Makita and rarely have a problem. Those & the Rawlplug "UNO" plugs are the mutts nutts.

There are several rows of houses in Brompton, adjacent to Chatham Dockyard and built on behalf of the navy that are built of bricks like that. SDS struggles! Masonary nails bend!