Boiler condenser pipe/overflow curved inwards?

May 03, 2014 158 Replies

Why do I keep seeing overflow pipes (or boiler condenser pipes, or whatever they are) on people's houses with the pipe curved round 180 degrees so it faces the wall? Why on earth would you want the water to run down the wall instead of fall a few inches from the house?


to stop the wind rushing in and freezing the condensate?

They are two separate things. Which are you on about?

I have never seen this.

Condensate should be taken to a drain. An overflow should be in a conspicuous postion so you see it if it overflows.

On 03 May 2014, "Uncle Peter" grunted:

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Any pipes configured like this are ones which are likely to spout very hot water in the event of a problem with the equipment like a boiler; ie, they aren't simply overflows from a cold water cistern. Therefore the intention is that any such water (which could emerge at force) is deliberately directed safely at a wall, rather than sprayed over or dripped on a passer by.

They come from the boiler pressure release valve and are positioned like that to prevent anyone near them being scalded if the valve opens.

Oh dear, typical modern health and softy bullshit, accounting for a 1 in a billion chance of slightly hurting someone.

In message , Uncle Peter writes

Oh dear, typical argumentative comment.

You've had a perfectly accurate and rational answer given to your question, why prolong the thread with further unnecessary whinging about something that is a definite and serious risk that has been assessed and reduced to almost nil by the simple procedure of putting a bend on the pipe?

"slightly hurting someone" if you ever get boiling, or near boiling, water poured onto you, from what ever source, just remember your comment that it only slightly hurts. Maybe if that occurs you will come back here and let us know if you have changed your mind on the "slightly hurting"

Well if its at eye level and it boils and comes rushing out, I'd not want to be standing there. Brian

Worried it will damage the wall?

They've all been about 6 inches off the ground.

I would think it better not to have your wall soaking wet.

I don't have such a thing so I don't care. I don't have a combi. I have a system boiler, and the overflow of the header tank is on the eaves, stuck out straight, as is traditional.

As against having someone scalded? These overflows are only in use when there's a fault that will release scalding hot water under quite a high pressure from them when the pressure relief valve opens, which isn't exactly an everyday occurence. The wall will get wetter every time it rains.

Bear in mind that as the property owner or occupier, you are liable for any injury suffered as a result of hotwater escaping form these pipes and scalding them.

By soaking wet do you mean when it rains, you know the stuff well as you live in Scotland:-) or having the equivalent of a boiling kettle full of water blasting out out of the pipe in about 1 seconds time should there be a problem with your boiler ?

This is not purely a combi related feature. It's a feature of all pressurised installs. If your system boiler was installed as in the second picture in the link

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then you would of course have the discharge pipe.

HTH

That's the correct position for them.

ALL of them?

I can assure you that the one at my parents first floor holiday appartment is not six inches above the ground

Oh don't be ridiculous. Chances are it wouldn't start squirting precisely as someone walks past. If it's already squirting, they would avoid it. You'll be telling me I'm liable if one of my paving stones is a mm higher than the rest and someone falls over it next.

We do have eaves you know....

You must have s*it boilers if they do that. What was wrong with the traditional header tank?

My mistake, I meant to write "condensor", not "combi".

Why? I thought they were drains at first.

Trust you to find an exception.

So do I but there is no protecton against rain hitting the gable end of the house (or the rest of the walls when it is raining and windy)

They only do that if there is a fault. There are lots of reasons why a traditional header tank is not used on some installations.

It is indeed your mistake. Condensing boilers have nothing to do with your argument and are not relevant.

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