Hello all , i have not posted for a long time .
I know this may have been covered before but cannot find trace .What has happened to abpo i only have 4 posts and none are of orchids it has been like this for a while now , no action .
Whats going on ?
Regards keith
Hi, Keith,
Months back, the major ISPs in the States dropped all binaries groups. It's a long story, but the result is that many (most?) of us can no longer access abpo.
One of our long time posters, Kye, from Australia, hooked us up again with a new server. The number is 121.208.40.178.
There you can subscribe to two newsgroups: orchids (text group) and orchids.pictures.
Hope this helps. It was a royal pain for those of us who got shut down.
Diana
Hello Diana Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but how do you access with the I.P no, i use IE 7/Outlook express
Thanks Keith
I don't use a newsreader. Is there a web browser based interface for it?
If not, what would be involved in creating one?
Ted
Outlook Express has "a newsreader". Diana's instructions below are all that's needed with Outlook Express. Just open your Outlook Express screen, click on "Tools" at the top of the screen, and follow Diana's instructions. Feel free to ask further if you still get stuck. Chuck B.
I don't use a newsreader. Is there a web browser based interface for it?
If not, what would be involved in creating one?
Ted
The ISPs either dropped their USENET servers or dropped binaries from their servers. The free access to USENET tends to be without binaries.
Some folks have moved pictures off to sites such as flickr, but the ense of community is fairly destroyed.
That does not need to be so. Witness the sense of community Facebook has successfully created: actually self organizing multiple communities.
A well constructed website can be at least as effective as a usenet newsgroup in creating a sense of community, and provide benefits that would be impossible with usenet.
Years ago, Kye and I discussed doing something like this, but it did not progress far as neither of us had the resources to make it work. It appears Kye has been able to at least support a usenet server. In a matter of weeks, I will be hosting my employer's website from my home office. This means that if I had a machine with enough capability, I could host such a website. The idea Kye and I discussed included supporting subscribers being able to store photos, formal botanical descriptions, culture conditions (daily records of temperature and humidity, when the plants is watered, fertilized and how much, plant size through time, production of infloresences/blooms, &c.), as far as the subscriber wishes. I'd add statistical support so a user could examine culture and results for those specimens most similar to their own, checks on specimen identity, &c. With such data, one could easily submit a query to learn what culture practices work best given a particular cultivar and ambient humidity and temperature. I'd even have a section for vendors to publish information on what they have available, so if you're looking for a particular cultivar, it becomes easy to learn who has it, if anyone does have it; and another section supporting subscribers arranging trades of plants, back bulbs, &c. (whatever they wish). Adding in web fora for discussions, and one could make the usenet newsgroups obsolete.
At present, I just don't have the money to get the hardware required (though I do have all the requisite software development tools and skills, and then some), and with my current workload, developing all of it will take quite some time. The only way I see any of this happening, though is if someone who can get excited does get enthusiastic enough to enlist sufficient resources to proceed. I can't get excited about much these days because the health challenges I've had recently have been overwhelming. I am pretty tired and discouraged.
I have two too: snow, and pretty (at least when it is fresh, before the plows and sanders corrupt it). ;-)
Cheers,
Ted
If you really do not like Outlook that much get on google and find a news reader that is more to your liking. There are a couple of them out there which are free to download.
I do not think any website is going to be the same as USENET. With websites come moderators, administrator, owners, IDs and passwords, rules, and hosting bills. If these things do not bother you, there are lots of web based orchid forums out there. None of them are like the wild, wild west USENET used to be. I was recently asked where all the RGOers went. I replied that I really did not know and that you did not see that many of them on the various website forums except Ray and Ray is ubiquitous.
Yes, it's always been a mystery to me why anyone would buy software from a company whose chief product by volume is fixes for its faulty products. Idiots!
Yes, and I miss the wild wild west.The community feeling without it is gone. AOS forum was a reasonable substitute til they broke it up into little bits and cut out everyone who questioned AOS or argued. The arguments were fun. It was just like real life - people argue - no need for Second Life!
And many of us, like me, prefer a LOT more freedom, like the USENET, warts and all!!
[Then, and here's an idea - don't let them see it!!]Yes, responsible parents, who are as scarce as hen's teeth and would lazily rather restrict everyone's freedom than supervise their children. Well, I'm not a child and it's not my job to care about their children - it's theirs! Don't want to go to the trouble of monitoring and supervising your children? Then don't HAVE them!!! I'm sick of everything in my life being circumscribed by OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN. Freedom of speech? Ooh, don't cuss in public because some person's coddled little brat might hear a word. Oh, terrible. A word. So because the parent chose to breed and drag their child out in public I lose my freedom of speech? If they don't like it they can keep the kid in, or, here's an idea, teach the kid whatever values they like without impinging on the freedom of everyone else. Too hard? Then don't be a parent. They're worried about my speech but they'll happily sit the kid down in front of a tv set and watch two supposedly human beings beat each other senseless and call it sport [boxing]. Bah! Humbug!
Thank goodness the governor of NY didn't pick the Cuomo nazi for the senate seat!!
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