I'm exploring the possibilities of installing a tuner card in the PC we
have hooked to the TV . I don't necessarily want to stream TV thru the
computer , but I'd like to record the shows my wife likes that she misses on
those nights she works . Just ordered a 1tb hdd for that comp so I can move
all the TV and movies there to make it easier for her to use .
I haven't done much research yet , thought this would be a good place to
ask for recommendations . I think I'd rather go with a pci/pcie card rather
than a usb device ... either way , I'll have to have the sat box tuned to
the proper channel since we have no OTA reception here .
IMO, it's a bad move to invest in a "card" that will probably NOT
be future-safe -- unless you plan on tying it to that particular
Instead, I'd suggest opening up that interface dependency and
going with an ethernet-based tuner. SiliconDust's HDHomeRun
products being the devices of choice (IMnsHO).
Essentially, you'll end up with a little box that has an antenna
connection and a network connection -- about the size of your
One advantage is that you can hide the box somewhere that has
access to your antenna without having to locate the PC in that
The other advantage is that you can "talk to" the box using a
SFF PC -- something that wouldn't ever be able to include an
"add on card". Here, I use "bible-sized" PC's (don't even
include an optical drive) that run fan-less to deliver video
to the TV (i.e., these boxes are located next to each TV)
while the "tuner" is located somewhere else.
I was wondering when they would make something like this. There are
3 or 4 OTA DVDRs on the market but still there's been a big hole.
That 's certainly helpful for me. Going up in the attic to run cable
to another room is a lot less appealing at 69 than it was at 37.
Plus I've put in some sort of floor since then that gets in the way
all the time.
It sounds like you are looking for a capture card, not a tuner card.
Then you will need to use the "tune to" function on the sat box timer
and duplicate that in the PC. I am playing with an Avermedia AverTV HD
DVR card as we speak. You can run it with Xp-W/8 (and probably 10).
You need a dual core machine ~3gz with a couple gig of RAM (XP)
This has component and HDMI inputs that your sat box should export.
I have had it a while and it works but I have not had time to screw
I've been using Hauppauge TV Tuner cards for years to record OTA TV
shows. I'm currently using a dual tuner HVR-2250 like this one:
I use the free NextPVR software to record the shows, along with an annual
subscription to the Schedules Direct TV listings.
I don't like a bunch of external boxes, so I have always gone with
I used to have two HVR-2250's, but one of them quit working. There seems
to be fewer and fewer decent shows to record anymore, so the single dual
tuner card works fine for me now.
If you have to use the Satellite tuner, you don't really need a tuner
card for your PC. You would just need a card that can encode an incoming
video signal. Ironically, TV tuners are usually the cheapest way to
capture video. :)
I don't know anything about it, but I see Hauppauge also makes a tuner
card for satellite TV:
Finally, depending on the shows you want to record, you may be able to
find them online. There are a variety of programs that will let you save
the shows to your computer, such as "Wondershare AllMyTube". You could
also subscribe to Hulu, or wait till the shows are available on Netflix.
Thanks everybody ! After looking over the devices that do what I want , I
think I'll just keep downloading the stuff she misses from a torrent site .
Only downside is having to wait a day or two for someone to post a torrent .
I quit using torrents years ago because they were painfully slow and the
downloads were often corrupted or infected with a virus. Make sure you have
good virus and malware scanners installed and running.
Also, be aware your ISP can see your torrent activity if you're not using a
Virtual Private Network (VPN). If they catch you downloading copyrighted
material, they have a right to cancel your internet service.
Binary newsgroups are faster and a bit more anonymous with a secure
downloader such as NewsBin. But, you won't find the selection that is
available on a torrent connection.
As I mentioned previously, most major networks offer full episodes online
now so you can download them directly from the source (with the right
I still prefer to record shows myself whenever possible as the quality is
higher, I get the show immediately, and it's all automatic so I don't have
to do anything.
For the cost of a VPN or a newsgroup service, you could subscribe to legal
sources such as Hulu+.
Some years back I read about a group of lawyers in (Florida?) that had
figured out how to monitor download traffic, identify bit streams that
were unique to various copyrighted movies, and identify IP address doing
Based on that, they were sending "Five-Thousand-Dollar Letters" to
subscribers with the ID'd IP addrs containing the message: "We represent
this content provider and will take you to court if you do not settle
this claim for $5,000".
Dunno if they are still in business.... but I would guess that is the
reason why some Torrent users subscribe to VPN services - which, AFIK,
anonyomyze their connections.
Semi-tangentially, there seems to be a proliferation of "Pirate Boxes":
itty-bitty Android computers in a box that run an application called
"Kodi", accept something called "Add-Ins", and sit under a TV set -
connected via HDMI cable. e.g.
The "Add-Ins" can be legitimate - as in Ted Talks - or pipelines to
sources of pirated material. The "Pirate Boxes", of course, come
loaded up with the latter. It looks to me like this has to trigger
*something* by the entertainment publishing industry once use of those
boxes grows beyond a certain point.
These boxes seem to be driving the developers of the legitimate
application "Kodi" right up the wall.... since they leverage a feature
of Kodi to do their deeds:
There is a law on the books requiring ISPs to supply information about
customers who are accessing unlicensed content and I am already hearing
accounts of people getting letters from their ISPs. No demands for
money AFIK, just gentle reminders....
On 3/31/2016 2:08 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Sure. Anyone "subscribed" to that torrent can see all of these things.
So, connect to LOTS of torrents, "pause" all of them and just watch
the addresses of the peers involved. The *name* of the torrent is
available in the protocol.
If you're saying they were *masquerading* as legal representatives
of those owners, that's hilarious! Imagine trying to sue them for
extortion: "I was STAELING something and this guy tried to extort
money from me..."
It essentially routes their traffic through an encrypted tunnel.
So, you can't see what is being passed... BUT, you can see that the
So, like using PEM, it begs observers to wonder: "What are you hiding?"
Kodi was XBMC.
Like terrorists using iPhones? Bank robbers using guns? Drug dealers
using cars? Addicts abusing pain meds? etc. Perhaps we should outlaw
all of these advances/technologies and only adopt things that are
:> > There is a law on the books requiring ISPs to supply information about
Yes. Some ISP's are more aggressive than others. Note that almost all
have language in their EULA's that gives them legal standing to dump
your account and/or provide identifying information to satisfy
subpoena's, etc. (often without informing you that this has happened).
How much is that <whatever> *really* worth to you??
On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:07:26 -0000 (UTC), HerHusband
I dont know anything about this, but why cant a person use a DTV
converter box for an antenna input and send the output from that
converter to a computer? The channels would be changed with the
converter box itself.
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