Stopping gun violence

Are you not aware of the many cases where people that were convicted and sent to prison were later found to be innocent, eg by DNA or other new forensics, not available at the time?

For me it is often an open and shut case. Say the cops arrest a shooter in a mall when he has a gun in his hand and they see him shoot. Or even better the case of Ruby shooting Oswell. It is all on video. That trial should not take but one day and then a quick hanging.

Now if it is not open and shut as above , then I could go with life in prison. If the prosicuter does not have enough evidence to convence a jury in 3 days, I don't think he has enough to even bring a case to trial.

Agree on some of them. Trial can be next day, execution follows that afternoon. OTOH, there are some much more complex and a lot of time is needed to investigate and gather evidence. I've watched many of the crime shows, the real ones, and it can be complex. I especially like the one where they find a murderer many years later and bring justice.

I particularly like See No Evil where they find the criminals on camera. Many crimes are solved with camera and cell phone tracking.

Forensics takes time too. A guy from Kentucky thought he would not get caught killing his ex in California because he had proof he was in Ohio at the time. Except he rented a car in Ohio, drove to California, killed her and returned. They found out he rented a car and by examining the bugs on the radiator proved it was driven to CA.

I agree it takes time to geather the evidence. I don't care if that part takes 20 years. What I am saying is that once the trial starts there should be enough evidence to have a trial of a week or less for the prosicution. Give the defense a week if needed.

Who exactly decides that it's "open and shut"? The Ruby case is a really bad example. You expect to be able to have done a full investigation, figure out if there were others involved and if so, who they were, in a presidential assassination case like that and have a trial in a week? What's your big rush, I really don't get it.

With a room full of people and video no doubt Ruby is guilty. After all the time it was never proven if he acted a lone or if there were others that paid him to do it.

We spent millions of dollars for no results.

I thought the Constitution states the right to a speedy trial. I don't think the OJ trial was very speedy.

I say investigate all the cops want,but once the trial starts is when it should be quick.

About 3 years ago I spent all day in a court room just for the jury selection for a simple traffic case. Did not get selected so don't know how long the trial lasted. I believe I had too much contact with the police from clubs and friends so not selected.

I've seen birds picking dead bugs out of radiators. I didn't know what a valuable service they were providing.

Police brought the rental car to their lab. They found a dead bug that only exists in some small area that he would have passed through on his way to CA.

Once case was a murder in Florida with suspect from Georgia. Body was found with some items from Wal Mart. Police went to every WalMart within a few miles if I75 and watched tapes until they found the suspect on camera buying the items.

I've seen different numbers thrown around but 50% pops out as the clearance rate for homicides.

The defense are usually the ones slowing down the process. The longer they wait the better chance evidence can be lost, memories will fade and they might even have a dead witness or two.