Social Security Number

[krw]

Your (worthless) opinion.

[George]

Like all things in life it isn't a black and white scenario that you rely on.

After all this is nothing but a business transaction. You are offering something for sale and someone may want to buy it. Terms and conditions are a moving target.

If say it is a position at the big box mart chances are you are going nowhere if you don't absolutely comply with whatever procedures are in place. But say it is a skilled or professional position. Then you have bargaining room. The employer makes an offer and you make a counter offer. Everytime I accepted a position there was a period of negotiation with offers and counter offers leading into it. If we agreed the usual deal on the first day was a request to "stop by HR and give them information so they can enter you into the payroll system".

[trader4]

I don't know who the hell you're talking to or think you're talking to. I never said I was involved in hiring people, asking for the SS#, or anything else. Can't you even follow a thread? As for who's stupid, well if you can't follow a thread.....

[Attila Iskander]

LOL Are we surprised that you had to fill out a whole slew of job applications ? NOT !

But good luck finding something Even you should be able to find some kind of work

If that's what it takes to piss off a HR droid It's a pretty low-level droid..

Well not everyone is busy filling fields on the terminals at Walmart like you.

[Attila Iskander]

No different in value from yours

[trader4]

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Yeah, that's right. The same info that your bank has, your broker, your home insurance agent, your auto insurance agent, your apt manager, your mortgage company, every credit card you've ever applied for, every hospital and doctor you've visited.... why it's just so totally unacceptable for a prospective employer to ask for it, that it's worth not getting the job. Good thinking. And why stop there. Why should they have your home address either? That's of no relevance either, right, yet could be used for identity theft. Or how about your phone and email address? Why my God! They could send you spam..... I guess the new procedure should be to go in an refuse to even give a name. What the hell difference does it make if your name is John Doe or Zachary Smith?

[Attila Iskander]

Indeed. In many cases, those negotiations are all about setting up the parameters of future treatment If you give them too much rope, they will consider they can chew your leg off.

Indeed that is the other side of the coin that is being ignored by some posters

[krw]

You really are a clueless shit.

Terminally stupid, clueless shit.

There aren't another kind, moron.

It's OK. Loser lefties always look down their nose at those who work for a living.

BTW, I'm an EE. I was out of work for three months *last* year. I probably filled out a dozen job applications and all required full personal information. One, a state university job required it online before any interview at all.

[krw]

It is *exactly* a business transaction. One person has a product to sell and another has money to buy. Just like a retail transaction, there are agents in the middle who operate with a set of rules that they usually have no power to change. If you don't follow the rules, you lose.

Complete nonsense.

[krw]

Moron, neither my opinion, Ed's, nor yours matters. What matters is the opinion of the hiring entity. It's important for *THEM*. Your sorry ass loses (to be expected for a loser).

[krw]

Fair enough but note that you *will* be excluded from consideration by many employers. I refused to supply this information, once, before even a phone interview. That was the last I heard from the company.

It doesn't matter what *you* think is reasonable.

You've already lost. That horse is *long* gone. Do yourself a favor and don't piss off prospective employers for no reason.

[krw]

No, dummy. You used the WRONG WORD. It shows a lower than claimed intellect.

Obviously wrong. You already failed third grade.

You're providing the evidence. You've stated that you would not follow instructions. End of argument. You lose.

YOu really don't have a clue.

[..../] IRONY

[krw]

It's clear you can't even write (or post) coherently.

[krw]

They clearly believe they have the need for the information. They also have the legal authority to ask for the information, so your argument is just as stupid as...

Those who want the job, yes.

Those who want to hire and those who want to be hired, yes, but that's the only thing you've said that makes sense, if only by accident.

...and the employer will indeed move one. No problem.

Absurd (but not surprising).

Nonsense. That horse is long gone.

[krw]

...and you are? You are really *FUNNY*. What a moron.

[Doug Miller]

[e-mail] wrote in news: [e-mail]:

Most employers don't ask for the SSN on a job application.

That's why the ones that do are viewed with suspicion.

[Attila Iskander]

Funny how over the last 30+ years, I had people coming to Me with offers and not the other way around. Must suck to be so part of the herd that you actually need to make an effort to distinguish yourself

[Larry W]

The original troll must be marvelling at returns well beyond any reasonable expectation from his post.

[Attila Iskander]

Mmm.. Let's see.. Your words " *EVERY* one I filled out last year required my SSN..."

Apparently I'm less "clueless than you are..

I'll take that as an admission that you've just been bitch-slapped

I haven't had to deal with one of those since... um

1971. When I applied for a summer job with IBM just before I started Engineering School.

[Attila Iskander]

Just because YOU never had that experience does NOT mean it's not true or "complete nonsense". All you are demonstrating with such comments, is that you have spent your life working at the low end of the food chain.

I had one job offer that went. "We have heard good things about you We would like to hire you to work X hours a week at $YY.00 (as per union Contract) per hour. All you need to do is come fully prepared to do A,B.C. those X hours." We will provide all administrative support. nterested ?"

Did that for 10 years on the side of my regular consulting job I could have done nothing else but just those X hours a week, and lived very comfortably of that income.