OT. Omicron??

Dec 09, 2021 Last reply: 4 years ago 30 Replies

The head honcho at Pfizer claims we might need a 4th shot because of the Omicron version of Covid. I haven't seen any reports of any deaths or serious illness because of it. So, why the vaccines? Old people, or those with existing health issues?

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Are you having trouble understanding what the word "might" means?

Its a work in progress. The virus changes, the vaccine has to. Just like the flu shot every year.

In this case it means "plan on it".

They just discovered it. The experts are also waiting to see if there are reports of deaths or serious illness. Why new vaccines? Because it has a lot of genetic changes.

Why the vaccines? Do you think Pfizer is giving out the vaccine out of the goodness of their heart? There is money to be made. It's okay though, the shots are free.

There's good money to be made in those yearly flu shots that might be

50% effective in good years. Of course the effectiveness is calculated by completely disinterested parties.

I wrote when this vaccine was still coming down the pipe this was not going to be a one and done thing. A company does not build this infrastructure for one shot. I predicted a yearly ritual but it is starting to look more like every

6-9 months.

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We'll see. Its also possible that they are 3 jab vaccines like some are and there it wont need one every year like flu does given that the boosters aren't because the virus has mutated, they are due to declining immunity and that may not happen after the booster.

I got my flu shot yesterday. For the minor inconvenience of getting the shot, I'll take 50-50 odds.

Also got my COVID booster. Much less reaction than the first two; I think my immune system is getting the hang of this.

Cindy Hamilton

I'm sure if you look at the dollars invested versus the return already, Pfizer has made a fantastic return that any drug company would be very satisfied with. As far as infrastructure, this isn't the Manhattan project.

Many years ago there was a big shortage of flu vaccine in the US with maybe one producer. It was not a problem in Europe. The difference was due to law suits in the US where maybe one in a million had a problem and sued. Suits were not allowed in Europe since they were warned that there was a one in a million chance of a problem.

Drug companies are out to make money and do help us but they need to make money to do so.

The good news is that while two doses of existing Pfizer apparently does not offer good protection against omicron, the existing booster dose should be highly effective.

Billions? Oh, I forgot, the billions are only the advertising budget.

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Then there are the billions needed to satisfy lawsuits over drugs that wouldn't have been brought to market except for the regulatory capture of the FDA and other agencies supposedly watching the henhouse.

My wife is diabetic. I can't remember what insulin cost in the '70s because it wasn't much of an expense. That's not the case now. How about the EpiPen scandal? 20 cents worth of epinephrine in a $500 gadget.

You are always going to have price gougers and best to have competition to keep prices down.

I was surprised to see the biggest cost of drugs is now in advertisement. It used to be in R&D and getting FDA approval but under the restraint of patents running out and drug becoming generic they have to increase market and make as much profit as they can before it becomes generic.

I have always been against taking any kind of prescription drug that is advertised. If it was a car or food item anyone with the money can just walk up and buy it that would be different. To get a drug in the US you have to go to a doctor and have him to ok it. If it was a good drug I would think the doctor would know about it, especially the special drugs that the specilists usually give.

Then there is the 'snake oil' types being advertised. The memory or ones that make you feel 20 years younger that come and go every few years that anyone can buy.

I am obverse to advertising, that is, I figure the more they have to advertise means that there is more in it for them than me. That goes for the now over deluge of ads for medicare advantage.

I do not confuse the real drugs with the snake oils. It is surprising all the false advertising they get away with.

Had my Pneumonia and Shingles shots recently too. Can't get my booster for another 6 weeks.

I don't know a lot about it but I understand the kind of insulin they had in the 70s is still cheap but they have the new and improved insulin that they gouge people on.

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