OT - Key Fob Transmitters - We've Come A Long Way, Baby!

Jan 09, 2017 23 Replies
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I had a remote start installed in one of my vehicles last week. I've bought a number of remote starts from this installer over the years, so I asked if there was anything he could do on the price. He said that they don't make much money on the unit itself, but he could toss in a couple of upgrades for free.



I was upgraded to a 1-mile range and 2-way communications on the key fob.



The 1-mile range is under ideal, almost line of sight conditions, but (so far) I've been able to start my vehicle from about .6 miles away as the crow flies, with houses and other buildings in between. (It was a .75 mile drive via Google maps) I am also able to start the vehicle from deep inside the building where I work, far away from any windows. That's more important to me than the actual distance. Being able to start the vehicle from inside a movie theater, restaurant, store, etc. is what I'm looking for. Since the fob tells me when the vehicle running, I don't have to guess.



Long range, a powerful signal and 2-way communications in a key fob is pretty neat!



OTOH, the cost of these upgrades is just plain stupid. The standard install comes with 1/4 mile range, one way communication. For $50 you can upgrade to 1/2 mile, one way communication. For *another* $50, you get the 1 mile range and 2-way communications. No new equipment, same key fobs. It's just a programming upgrade. $100 for about 15 seconds of button pushing! That's pure profit every time they can sell the upgrades, unless there is some kind of kick-back to the manufacturer. Of course, getting the upgrades for free is great. I'm sure would not have paid for them.



On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:49:38 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03

You must live in a pretty safe area. There are lots of places where someone would hear an unattended car start up and say, "there is our ride now" Break the window and drive away.

Let me know when you can push a button, start the car, and have the car come and pick you up.

Per Taxed and Spent:

I'd give it 7 years... max.

Per DerbyDad03:

How much was the total install ?

Not sure how Derby's remote works, but I have remote start on my Mazda 6, and the car shuts off as soon as a door is opened and will not restart without the FOB in range (not talking about the remote start module). I'm not sure what would happen if someone climbed in through a broken window without opening the door though.

I have the stock keyless fob for my car and a separate remote starter fob. If I use the remote starter and someone tries to enter the car without the stock keyless fob, it will shut off but that's also if the door is unlocked. If the door is locked, they aren't getting in without the stock fob unless they break the glass then revert to the shutting off part. Therefore, the stock fob is required to continue with my car if remote started. I'm unaware how others are and sure they vary, but with that feature, I wouldn't think a theft issue would be a concern.

+1, You stated it better than I did, but that's exactly how my Mazda works.

IME they have locking steering wheels too.

You know, TBQH, I have no idea if my Mazda's steering wheel locks since I never tried to turn it without the car running, but the start button is on the dash, not the steering column like most of my older vehicles, so I'm not sure how it would lock. When the wife gets home from work I think I'll see if it does or not.

Funny you mentioned that cause I also have no idea about my steering wheel locking mechanism. Now I'm curious as well.

Audi Car Parks Itself and Picks You Up With a Tap of an App

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Forgot this one also..

BMW shows off car that acts as its own valet

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Except they can only go until they touch the brakes, or about 3 minutes, which-ever comes first. And they can only go in the direction the wheels are pointed, as the steering remains locked

Hard to drive away since every remote start I have ever owned shuts down the vehicle as soon as the brake is depressed without the key in the normal "run" position.

Since you can't even get a modern car out of park without stepping on the brake, the only thing the bad guy will get is an ass full of broken glass.

$250 for the unit, $40 for the T-Harness

I don't have a keyless fob since I don't have a push button start. In my case, the key is separate from the OEM fob, so I was able to put the OEM fob on the shelf and now use just the remote starter fob.

If someone breaks the window and climbs in they can't drive the car without the key in the "run" position. As soon as they depress the brake pedal without the key in run position, the vehicle shuts down. It's been that way with every remote start I've ever had (6?) from various manufacturers in cars from 4 different makers.

With all of them, I can press the start button on the fob with the key in the ignition, vehicle running and then turn the key to "off" and remove it. The vehicle will continue to run and I can go into a store or the house and keep the vehicle warm or cool.

FWIW, I just checked, and my Mazda does not lock the steering wheel when the FOB is not in range.

Every one I had would stop as soon as you touch the brake pedal to shift into gear.

Decent price. I have BlueLink but there is a yearly charge and IMO, not as handy as pushing a button on the fob.

I have to open an app on the phone but then I can select the temperature and turn the defroster on. Punch in a 4 digit pin. Distance is unlimited as long as you have cell phone service.

Easy enough at home in the morning, but leaving the grocery store it is too cumbersome. Last car I got a regular remote, may do it again.

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