was frustrated recently by a key ring and realized that I'd been
meaning to ask for a while where one should buy them. Of course, the
obvious answer would be "a hardware store" or "a locksmith's shop" but
let me explain...
Every key ring that I have seen offered for sale is pretty much the
same, it's a ring (actually a double ring) of spring steel that you
put your keys on. However, when I drop my car off at a mechanic's and
they put one of those little tags on my key ring, the ring that they
use to hold the tag is infinitely better. It's a triple loop of much
smaller spring steel, thus making it easier to get my keys on/off the
ring if I have to, and more importantly, if I have a very large key
that requires that the key ring be sprung open wider than normal (such
as a car key,) it still springs back to normal. The key and the
remote for my company car are also held together by such a ring.
However I have never seen this kind of ring offered for sale, but I'd
gladly buy 10 or 20 of them if I had.
Anyone know what I'm talking about, and know where I can buy some of
these? Currently I have one key ring that I have to periodically wrap
with scotch tape so keys don't fall off in my pocket. It got "sprung"
when I put a 50 yen piece on it (the 5 yen and 50 yen coins have holes
in the middle) for decoration, I know, dumb idea in retrospect. I'm
sure one of the other kind would have been fine however.
When I drop my car off, which is rarely, they use much cheaper rings,
that go about one 1.3 times around and I'm sure I could bend with my
The simplest thing I can think of is to ask the place you drop your
car off if you can buy some. If they say no, ask them where they buy
theirs. (Truly, it's funny how people work and this second question
may cause them to say, here's some for free, or at least to name a
Then I would try keyrings.com . Hey, there really is such a page,
although it is mostly personallized keyrings and may not really have
much variety mechancially. But I see they do have a category called
Split Rings, except on my browser it's empty. :(
No. I don't think I do.
Googling on split key ring bulk gave a bunch of things including:
(Amazon.com product link shortened)
but I don't think one can tell if they are what you want. You could
write the vendor. Write via ebay so your questoins and answers are
Is this a troll? If yours is sprung, get another one for 5 cents or a
quarter. The new ones aren't sprung. (Unless you shop at a specialty
store for spring rings.) It doesn't have to be triple. The ones they
sell everywhere and often give away for free are fine.
I didnt read your post super carefully (not enough "white
space".....I've got more than a bit of 'ADD')
take a look at these
Zinc-Plated Steel Split Ring, 1.159" ID
In stock at $8.61 per Pack
This product is sold in Packs of 25
OTOH how about a spare for the mechanic?
the pic shows the kind I don't like, the heavier gauge wire with only
2 turns, that tend to get "sprung" easily
might just have to ask him next time I take car in, but the ones they
use are pretty small in diameter unlike a "normal" key ring of 1" or
1.25" or so
I know they exist as I have *one* but it came with car
So buy another car.
I've been using the ones you don't like for 50 years and I've never
had one come close to springing. Just stop putting big coins with
holes in the middle on them and use them for keys only.
Some of my keys are similarly large, is the problem. I can't stop
carrying those. For some reason auto mfgrs. in particular seem to
like to make keys have goofy big plastic heads with the holes in them
far away from the edge of the key.
Which gradually occurs by itself over time until, one day, the keys fly
all over the place when you pull the ring out of your pocket. Not fun in
a dark parking lot.
I'll repeat the advice that others have given the OP: get another copy
of your car key; put it on a small, plain ring by itself with a tag
listing the make, model, and color of your car; and use that whenever
you need to hand over your car for service, cleaning, or parking.
At least Ford smart keys aren't all that expensive as long as you buy the
spare while you still have at least two others. I think the last one I bought
was $12. With only one it they can get $75, or so.
No. If you have two, you can reprogram the third yourself using the car's
computer (it's somewhat of a pain, but the instructions are in the owner's
manual). They just cut the keys (blanks aren't expensive). If you only have
one, they have to do it and they'll likely ding you for an hour labor.
This is true. From what they told me, a lot of small-town dealers that
don't need to create that many keys, and don't want to buy the machine
and keep the software updated (or a trained operator on the payroll),
now job out the work to a local locksmith. When I bought my 1-key van,
dealer gave me the magic number, and pointed me at the locksmith they
use. And it was still north of 120 bucks for 2 normal-sized but chipped,
no-button keys. So I now have 3. I keep meaning to buy a couple uncut
blanks off ebay, and get them cut cheap at hardware store, and program
them myself. I'm well overdue for losing a keyring, and it is best to be
prepared. I wish I could find a programmable separate-from-key button
fob that would work with an 05 Caravan, because there are times the
buttons would be nice, since 3 of the 5 doors have no lock cylinder. I
just can't live with that bizarre serving-spoon-sized combined key and
fob- my pockets aren't that big. What idiot thought that was a good idea?
With a Ford, anyway, it's not the key that gets programmed. The car's
computer has to be told that the key is valid. Two keys or a third party (the
dealership) is how it determines "programming rights". Maybe Ford allows
locksmiths to have the secret handshake that allows single key (or no key)
programming, don't know.
It's not really that complicated. To keep a valet, for instance, from
duplicating a key, two keys are needed (the owner isn't likely to turn two
keys over to the valet) or a trusted person (the dealership or locksmith) to
validate the key to the ignition. Validating a key is sort of a pain because
the user-interface is pretty bad (turn signals, heater controls, and check
engine light, IIRC), but it's just a matter of following directions.
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