Car is just bought by a kid just learning to drive (he's 16).
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer ES
Neighbors asked me what their options are for getting duplicate fobs.
It came with only one key and one "remote" (see photo above).
(I made a half-dozen keys for the kid so the question is about the remote.)
Anyone know what options there are for getting duplicate remotes?
That's VERY NICE and useful!
Do we have TWO choices as shown here?
Certainly the original
Looks like the second one here...
$105 remote plus programming
Price INCLUDES programming instructions and all required programming tools
for training the vehicle to recognize the remote.
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder
IOf you have 2, you can add 3rd and 4th etc very easily. With only
one I THINK it is a bit more difficult.
When you are done your neighbor will think you are a genius!!!!
Wow Clare ... you are the genius!
If those instructions are legit, it sure seems that we can buy a handful of
remotes and just program them all together at the same time.
Here's my summary of that document:
<2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Keyless Entry Remote Fob Programming Instructions>
"Many people don?t know that they can purchase their own replacement
vehicle entry remote, save up to 70% off of marked up Dealership prices,
and program the replacement remote to their vehicle themselves."
First, verify this is on the back of the remote:
* FCC ID: OUCG8D-525M-A
* Factory Part No.: MR587983
I just looked at the original pictures where the FCC ID matches perfectly,
but that "Factory Part Number" doesn't exist on the current fob (maybe it's
already an aftermarket fob?).
1. Insert key into the Ignition and leave it in the OFF position.
2. JUMP OBDII Ports 1 and 4 with a suitable jumper wire.
3. Within ten (10) seconds, PRESS the Hazard Light Switch six (6) times.
4. The door locks will cycle once indicating entry to Programming Mode.
On the first remote to be programmed...
5. PRESS the LOCK Button three (3) times within ten (10) seconds.
6. Door locks will cycle once indicating successful programming
7. For all other remotes, individually repeat step 5 within one (1) minute.
8. REMOVE the jumper wire connected to the Data Link Port.
9. Programming is now complete.
10. Test all remotes.
Sometimes such things are like an "rm -r *" command, so I hope it's legit,
but if it is, it seems all I have to do for them is figure out if the
missing "Factory Part Number" is critical and where best to buy a handful
of these remotes!
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 3 Aug 2018 08:56:02 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
It used to be that when you did this, you had to reprogram the keys or
fobs (I forget which) that you already had, which were working, at the
same time you did a new one. (and I was afraid I'd mess them all up.)
but with my 2004 Chrysler and 2005 Toyota, I dont' think that was true.
Just follow the directions to the letter.
It might help to have someone read you the instructions while you do it.
At least for me, on the first couple tries, I can't remember more than
one step at a time, and the time it took for reading even though I
thought I turned the key on and off, or the lock button up and down, the
right number fo times, it took 4 or 5 tries to get it right. but that
was the first one. After that I got much better.
I'm gonna assume those "existing remotes" can be re-programmed on another
There's a reason I ask, which is we're asking the original owner to come up
with more remotes, if he can.
BTW, does anyone know if the three-button remote Clare found can also be
used instead of the two-button remote the kid currently has?
The reason I ask is that, for some reason, the trunk doesn't open with the
one key he has, and, there's no way to open it by hand, so the *only* way
currently to open the trunk is via the lever in the cockpit (since the fob
he has is only a two-button fob).
Seems to me, if the three-button fob works, that this would solve the trunk
On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 01:31:36 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder
Remember - you are NOT PROGRAMMING THE REMOTE.
You are training the BCM - or "adding the remote" to the BCM
If a 3 button fob is available for the car, it will work. Personally
I've never seen an OEM type fob with only 2 buttons, I'm sure they
must exist, but I've never run across one. I think even most pickup
trucks come with 3 button fobs (and some have power tailgate locks - -
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
You don't have to spend anywhere near this for most cars. I
programmed fobs for Chrysler and Toyota last summer, and each fob was
about $10. Insturctions are online for free.
You don't need a number off the back. Go to an ebay page (or maybe it
was Amazon) and find someone who sells fobs and put in the year, make,
adn model of the car and it will tell you if he has the fob to fit it.
I got keys the same way, for even less money.
And it's not just those two makes. Just about all of them
Thanks for this input, where I've been concentrating on the oxygen sensor
thread (for obvious reasons of triage) but where this information is
How do they prevent theft?
That is, what proof do you normally give them that it's YOUR car?
NOTE: I'm not trying to steal a car ... I'm just trying to understand the
Most cases require you to bring one of the original fobs to get the new
Dealer may have you listed as the owner and that would suffice.
My boss went to Europe. His wife took his car and locked the keys
inside and the dealer was 50 miles away. I had to give the dealer the
VIN and have a local locksmith vouch for me since he knew the both of us
and did work for the company.
Thanks. I'm not trying to steal a car, but it seems, from Clare's nice
instructions, that all you need to do is buy the fob and get a hold of one
of the other fobs, and you can make keys.
Of course, all the fobs will be no good, so if you did it without the
knowledge of the owner, the owner's own key fobs would stop working.
But, according to what Clare sent, you don't need anything but the fob and
the car and that's it.
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 15:10:45 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder
That is for the remote entry fob - NOT the immobilizer key.
2 different animals - although some vehicles DO integrate the remote
entry fob into the head of the key.
The newer cars use RFID to automatically unloch the vehicle when you
approach, and lock it when you leave, and allow you to start the car
without a key by pressing the start button.
That is different technology COMPLETELY
I know what you mean because the sister of this kid has a Camry 2005 with
the immobilizer driving her nuts because it goes on constantly.
When I'm done helping with the 2004 Lancer, I may get her some remotes for
her Camry and program them.
The "fob" is nopt programmed. It is added to the programming of the
BCM of the car. You "train" the BCM - you don't "program" the fob.
With some Imobilizer keys you DO need to program the chip on the key.
On others you can train the ECM to accept the code in the key.
In MANY cases "programming" the key is actually "cloning" the key -
and if you have a car that has "memory seats" the cloned key will
always set the seat to the same position as the original, while a key
"trained" i to the ECM will have it's own settings.
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