My machine is old, 12 yrs to be exact. I do believe my hard drive is
dying. Wouldn't mind keeping my monitor, but would like to increase memory,
speed, etc. And, specifically would like all my information put on the new
system. I really like Outlook Express, but have heard it is not available
In other words, I need some words of wisdom regarding what information I
should be looking for. And what should I steer clear of?
As you can tell I really lack computer knowledge.
On Sunday, March 30, 2014 4:41:56 PM UTC-5, Jerry wrote:
If you're forced into Windows 8 install "Classic Shell", stay away from HP/
Compaq because of all the crapware. I have a free PC that I installed Windo
ws 7 (Dell 8400 3Ghz,3Gb,320GbHDD, basically ancient) and it runs very well
! And there's always Craigslist!
On Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:19:57 PM UTC-4, Bob_Villa wrote:
P/Compaq because of all the crapware. I have a free PC that I installed Win
dows 7 (Dell 8400 3Ghz,3Gb,320GbHDD, basically ancient) and it runs very we
ll! And there's always Craigslist!
I have two HP systems, two to three years old and have no "crapware"
problems, issues, etc with either of them. They do come with some utilitie
and Norton, but nothing that's intrusive, full of ads, or anything like tha
I'm very happy with them, liked the HP website for configuration and would
buy from them again.
On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:38:02 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
Most people have brand loyalty not matter how irrational it may be...you may drive a Chrysler branded vehicle that is majority owned by Fiat.
Dell,HP/Compaq,Acer/Gateway,Lenovo, all sell entry level PC's...and they all come with a certain amount of "crapware" (or limited use programs) that subsidizes the lowest price!
On Monday, March 31, 2014 9:37:23 AM UTC-4, Bob_Villa wrote:
Well assuming that's true, which I doubt because every HP PC I've seen
comes with the same software load, who's fault is it if you choose to
buy a cheap PC instead of what I buy? If Honda has one cheap car that's
no good, does that warrant saying don't ever buy a Honda? Good grief.
I bought a HP laptop with W7 about three years ago. I'm mostly afraid to
use it. HP has had so many bios updates and other updates. Just last week
it updated, and came up with a new desktop scheme, it was ok after I
rebooted. Last year I figured out a comcast virus software was screwing up
every shutdown, requiring windows fix each time. When I turn this machine
on, might as well get a cup of coffee before tryin to use it. I have not
updated windows since last year. At least I can use it some.
Ummm, I bought an HP laptop a year ago and it didn't come with ANY
"crapware". OTOH, a friend of mine bought a Dell desktop a few years ago
and it took me an entire day to uninstall all of the "crapware".
On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 10:13:55 PM UTC-5, Ron wrote:
From a Walmart HP laptop
Still on my computer. Lets you know when certain programs and drivers
need to be updated.
Still on my computer. Contains HP recovery manager, HP support
assistant, HP Coolsense settings, and HP Protectsmart AKA HP 3D
Lets the computer boot to the desktop instead of the Metro screen. I
never used it (if I even had it). I installed Start8.
I use that.
Hell, I installed that.
This computer came with Microsoft Office Starter 2010 free of charge.
If I go to the Metro Screen (which I hardly ever do) there is a crap
load of free and payware apps in the Microsoft store. I just checked
Amazon, Kindle and Netflix are in there but you have to install the apps.
On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:30:05 AM UTC-4, Ron wrote:
My HP buying experience is consistent with yours. I bought two from the
HP website about a year part, a couple years ago. They had software
similar to what you got, ie the HP support assistant, getting started app,
Norton, freestarter version of Microsoft Office. I just looked and there
is also an icon for HP Games, but I've never opened it, done anything with it.
I guess it depends on what your definitionn of "crapware" is. What they load may be different depending on the channel it's sold in. The HP load on
mine was fine by me. To me crapware is when you load it up with a lot of
stuff that is totally useless and intrusive, ie popping up with solicitations,
etc. If crapware means anything other than just the OS, then I would think
you're going to find that on any PC from any major manufacturer today.
AFAIK, you'd have to buy from a mom/pop integrator if you want to avoid
having anything but the OS on it.
I have a love hate relationship with HP support assistant. It always wants
to update something. My bios has been redone at least 3 times. There is
also some stuff I don't use, but I usually have the option to decline. It's
seems to want to reboot when I'm trying to work. Mines about 3 years old,
otherwise it's a beautiful machine. Using W7, which I have not updated
windows in a year.
| OK, if you say so. The ONLY thing on this PC that was trialware was
| Norton. Again, NO "crapware".
:) I'd call anything from Symantec crapware.
And when it's pre-installed as a free trial version
it's sleazy crapware. Symantec would be out of
business if they didn't pull that trick on onwitting
On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:34:57 AM UTC-4, Mayayana wrote:
I guess I must be one of those "unwitting" buyers. My HP came with
free Norton for a year. When I bought it, they had a deal where for
a nominal fee, I think it was ~$30, you could get two additional years.
I took advantage of that. I got 3 years of Norton and it's performed
fine by me, no issues at all. I think I saw where you posted suggesting
that anti-virus isn't needed. I'd say it's that view that's unwitting.
Oh, and I got a free starter version of Microsoft Office, which I'm still
using. I could have upgraded to the full version for $100, but for my
limited use, there is no need, the free version is fine for me.
I guess that's just all more crapware.
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