What is the purpose of paying for a newsreader? Is it to access news
groups? For that purpose, is Google really so awful? Esp, for
people who visit only a few NGs?
(Note: I had one of the BEST email clients for years -- Forte Agent.
Swift, powerful, sophisticated.
But when they discontinued NG access, I went to a Web-based email
client. I guess I could still use Agent just for email, but now I'm
sot in me ways.
Or do people pay for a newsreader to follow the news, period. If the
latter, why not just go to news sources on-line?
Have been puzzling about this for some time.
Why pay for any of it? There are scores of good free newsreaders and
several free text-based news servers. Using a newsreader for USENET is
a far better experience than using the clunky Google Groups interface.
Besides, Google Groups hasn't been too reliable lately anyway. If I
was forced to use the G2 interface it would be time to give up USENET
On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 16:59:05 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
Agent still works fine. What you must mean when you say "they" don't
have it, is that your ISP doesn't have its own news server. So you
need to enrol/subscribe to one of the others. There are free ones and
those that charge 3 or 4 dollars a month.
If you paid for your copy of Agent you can still use it paid mode.
If it wants a number, you can email them, give them as much info as
you can. Your name might be enough. You gave it to them in the first
place if you charged buying it, what your email address was at the
time (that might be enough), about when you paid, etc. and they'll
send you your pssword number.
I still use version 1.9. I find version 6 a little complicated
Version 6 doesn't have a free version, only a 30 day trial, but
version 1.9 is stilll around. Even if you buy ver 6, it's only 39
On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:41:53 -0500, Gordon Shumway wrote:
:On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:18:28 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
:>(Note: I had one of the BEST email clients for years -- Forte Agent.:>Swift, powerful, sophisticated.
:You not only had one of the best email apps you also had one of the
:best newsreaders too. In fact Agent was designed primarily for news.
:Use Agent for news and you will be better off.
I've been using Agent since it was in beta (when it was free). I bought
a version looooong time ago and haven't bothered to upgrade. I'm using
1.93xxx. Does NG and email great, don't know why I'd want to change.
There's several newer versions of Agent, but I've got other things to do
and spend my money on. I'm pretty sure newer Agent versions would be
able to take the data from my current Agent (I've kept a whole lot of
that), but don't know if and how I'd move my Agent data over to another
kind of email/NG client.
PS Seems like every time I go to Google Groups for a search it gets
clunkier and less useful. Maybe I've just forgotten how to use it, don't
know. It's nice for finding things not specific to one newsgroup... or
Email: dmusicant at pacbell dot net
On 07/03/11 04:46 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Thunderbird (email and news) or SeaMonkey (email, news and browser) both
from Mozilla, are free.
Hear! Hear! I am a member of dozens of Yahoo! groups but always have
messages as individual emails to my computer, where Thunderbird filters
them into folders depending on the criteria I set.
My ISP dropped newsgroups, but I can still get most of them _via_
eternal-september.org, which is free. news.individual.net retains
messages longer and costs the vast sum of 10 Euros/year -- about US$14
I have separate folders for each newsgroup.
On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 17:24:47 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
I tried SeaMonkey. It was too bloated and slow. I use Thunderbird, instead
of Agent, for email primarily because it uses a standard file format. I lost
almost ten years of email history and address books when I could no longer use
the email program I was using.
If you have Individual (I've used them for about six years), why use email for
No longer. Now you get Windows Live Mail 2011 and it is a poor newsreader.
Well, it reads OK, but responding is not so hot. I'm using the 2010 version
and it is a bit better than my old OE, but they "improved" it to be about
useless for newsgroups.
If you don't like Thunderbird's new reading interface (some do, some
don't), try the free xananews. Use one or the other for a few days and
compare that to your web-based news reading. Unless you only read 1 or
2 groups sporadically, you'll find a news reading client much faster and
easier to use because you can customize it to your habits and preferences.
I used to like the old Netscape browser's newsreader interface. But then
they upgraded it to uselessness before dumping the whole shebang. The I
switched to Xnews. Free, and it does it for me. For discussion of
newsreaders you oif course use the newsgroup
For news server I use astraweb. I paid $10 for 25 GB of downloading in
June 2008. I have used less than 1 GB. It has binaries out the kazoo,
with great retention. Check out
To have features beyond those in the built in email/news client (Outlook
The client (reader) has nothing to do with newsgroup access. Used to be
most ISPs provided access; they no longer do so you have to provide your own
either by signing up with a free one such as eternalseptember, buying a
block from one like Usenet-news or paying a monthly fee to one such as
Thanks, Smitty. What I want is to read Usenet. You said that was a
"Newsreader." Which is the term I used in my initial query. Somehow
got confused with what you called: "news" like stories of fires and
wars and crime and traffic."
Not interested in those.
Everybody on a.h.r seems to think that for newsgroups/forums anything
is better than GG Web-based "newsreader. Agent used to offer it free,
then went to paid, which I used for a while. Trying to remember why I
stopped; maybe because while traveling, I could access Web-based
Somebody pointed out that Agent "Newsreader" CAN still be purchased
in various "strengths". I don't mind paying the $2.95 for low
volume. But is there something free & GOOD?
Tx to all for helpful input.
(Over at CERN, they're STILL trying to track down MY particle. . Heh,
I bought Agent long ago. Was using an older version -- I think 2, or
a little higher? -- but didn't continue to upgrade because I was not
attracted to all the bells & whistles. It's still active on my system.
What operating system do you have on your computer(s)?
I have Windows XP on one and Windows Vista on another.
On the XP computer I use Outlook Express to read Usenet newsgroup messages.
I also downloaded and installed a free program called QuoteFix (not sure if
it is still available). So, to read the newsgroup messages on this Windows
XP computer I am using Outlook Express with QuoteFix.
On the Windows Vista computer I have, I use Windows Mail to read Usenet
newsgroup messages. That's because Windows Vista doesn't come with an
Outlook Express newsreader like Windows XP did. Windows Mail (which is
included in Windows Vista) is similar to Outlook Express.
To get actual access to the Usenet newsgroups, I used two different free
Usenet newsgroup servers (I think that's what they are called). The two
So, in other words, I get access to the Usenet newsgroup messages through
the two free services named above (instead of having to pay GigaNews or some
other service, and since my ISP's -- Comcast and Verizon -- dropped
providing its customers with access to the Usenet newsgroups). Then, once I
have access to the Usenet newsgroups, I use the free Outlook Express with
QuoteFix and Windows Mail to actually read the messages on the newsgroups.
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