Need your advice on a good inside automotive tire patch

clare wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:29:04 -0500:

That was the beemer dealer.

But both bimmer and beemer dealers (which are usually under different ownership) screw you.

They don't call 'em stealers for nothin'.

Only three things you get/do at the stealer:

  1. Warranty work
  2. Recall work
  3. Oddball parts you need this very moment
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Danny D.
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clare wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:36:19 -0500:

Maybe both are true.

I am not all that sensitive to anything (watch when people try to insult me, for example). And I don't go yelling out the window at someone who talks on their cellphone or who cuts me off. I just ignore them.

I also don't drive all that fast. Maybe 80 to 85 on the highway at most, which, as you know, is nothing on a California highway (I don't call 'em freeways 'cuz they're not free - CA has the highest gas tax in the nation).

Plus, I balanced them really well.

I have nothing against dynamic balancing except that it's not always needed. That's all.

If you mount and balance your own tires, the only thing that is hard to do is the dynamic balancing. Everything else is trivially easy to do at home. And cheap. All the tools cost less than one visit to the shop.

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Danny D.

Tony Hwang wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:42:18 -0700:

I have a bimmer. Older E39 model. Rides fine with the five tires I mounted and balanced myself with this.

HF Mounter:

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HF Balancer:

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I go about 80 or 85 on California highways which are some of the best maintained roads in the country as far as I can tell (having come from the east coast where the roads are lousy as all hell).

No vibration, but, I did a very good job of balancing them. I think maybe the BBS aluminum wheels made it easier?

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Danny D.

clare wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:38:42 -0500:

Probably true.

  1. The advantage of canned air is that sealant is often included, and it doesn't require electricity and it's small but it goes bad over time.

  1. The advantage of a compressor is that it doesn't go bad over time but it's much larger and it requires electricity (which is usually ok except the cigarette lighter is FAR away from the rear tires if you keep the wheels on the car). On a bimmer, the battery is far from the front axle. On most cars, it's the opposite, but you still have that problem.

  2. The advantage of a hose that goes from one side of one axle to the other side of the other axle is that it's small, it never goes bad, but it does suck some air out of the other three tires. If you're lucky, you can suck air out of someone else's tires! :)

The main disadvantage is that you have to make it out of a hose and two chucks, one of which has to latch on and the other has to have some way of shutting off (which most chucks do). The biggest problem is that the chucks are usually pretty big, so that necessitates a bigger hose than you want (or need) to store.

My plan is to build a long thin hose, with two hoses on the end that are thicker which contain the two chucks. Dunno if it would work though, as I don't know how much air you have to scavenge from three other tires to fill up one tire.

Of course, in a parking lot, there are lots of tires ... :)

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Danny D.

Ralph Mowery wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:39:38 -0500:

I wonder how long it would take to fill a tire with those small bicycle pumps?

It takes about a hundred pumps to fill a bicycle tire.

Whaddya think? About 1,000 pumps?

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Danny D.

clare wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:30:26 -0500:

My plan is to take up Wheel Works on their offer of a free mushroom patch. I still can't believe that it's free.

I meant to go today, but, when I moved the car onto a flat area, I left the key in the ignition, so the bimmer never went to sleep.

Dunno why that killed the battery - but it did. So it's on the trickle charger as we speak, so, tomorrow I'll take Wheel Works up on their offer of a free mushroom patch.

I still can't believe they're free - so - tomorrow I'll let you know what happens.

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Danny D.

Wow, 60 posts on "advise to patch a tire". Must be a very complicated repair.

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Ashton Crusher

It's a lot more important on cars with all wheel drive and fancy stability/traction control.

They were NOT snowing him.

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clare

You were lucky and got a set that didn't really need much balancing. My guess? Continentals or some other tire that lists at $200 or so each.. And you got lucky that they needed a multiple of 1/2 ounce to balance out.

You get a tire that needs 1.75 to 2 ounces to static, and it may need

4 to dynamic balance it. You might have 1.5 on the outside at one spot, and half way around the tire another 2.5 to 3 on the inside.

Get that on the front of a twitchy little sedam like a BMW320 with only a static ballance, and your hands will get a good massage from the steering wheel, even if the bumper doesn't jump.

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clare

Doesn't need any weight. All he needs is a few ratchet straps - one on each side at the front and one at the center rear. Draw the suspension down by pulling the body down to the alignment rack to the prescribed level, and do the adjustments. No rocket science involved.

There are some intelligent mechanics around, you know.

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clare

What's the difference between a Bimmer and a Beemer????

Anyone crazy enough to buy a second one deserves what he gets. Crazy enough or rich enough that the criminally high expenses don't mean anything to them

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clare

The BBS rims are no better balance wise than any quality OEM or aftermarket alloy rim. I have Ford OEM alloys for my snows and Eagle Alloy rims for my summer rims on the Ranger. The rims themselves all balance out perfectly on the dynamic balancer with stems installed..

No measurable radial or side to side runout.

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clare

Some do go bad just sitting. Hoses rot, and compressor pistons corrode from misuse.

Don't bet on them not going bad. Ozone damage to the hose can leave you with a popped hose.

You don't need to make them. They came as standard equipment with many GM vehicles with air ajustable suspension - to use the air ride compressor to blow up tires (or footballs, or swimming tubes, or whatever) I have 2 of them - must be if to 20 feet long each.

You would need to take almost 1/3 of the air out of each of 3 other tires to blow up one empty tire.

And a possible vandalism charge - or more.

A good 1.25 to 2" bore tire pump is just as fast as the 12 volt compressor - needs no electricity, and doesn't need to steel are from your other tires. Makes you sweat a bit = but many of us need the exercise anyway.

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clare

A standard tire pump (not a frame-mounted bike pump - one of those 24 inch-ish units with a footplate and a "T" handle- can pump a 225/70 15 tire faster than the average 12 volt compressor by a factor of about 2 if you are in good shape or have a "second" to spell you off.

Took about 50 strokes to take tire from 15 to 30 psi. - that's just a couple minute's work.

I used to have to blow up tires on farm wagons with one of those pumps as a young feller. Thankfully they were tube type tires - seating a bead on a tubeless tire with a hand pump would be a trick (use ether and throw a match if you get stuck having to do the deed)

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clare

I carry Dynaplug kits on my bikes with tubeless tires:

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I've also used the standard string type with good results. The politically correct thing to do is to immediately repair the tire or preferably, if your selling bike tires, buy a new one. I patched a almost brand new rear tire, and ran it close to 8000 miles before the tread was gone. The string plug did leak slowly towards the end but when the tire was removed the inside loop was well sealed and wasn't going to blow out.

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rbowman

Not according to this:

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Ed Pawlowski

That's the nice thing about running DOT legal knobbies on a dual sport. Balance the tire? How could I ever tell whether it was balanced or not?

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rbowman

We have 2 Subarus in the family for years. Symmetrical AWD they are. There is Youtube explaning Subaru system, one of the best. Audi Quattro, BMW xDrive, Acura SH AWD... Subaru, Acura come out on top.

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Tony Hwang

clare wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:05:14 -0500:

I wouldn't "think" of driving any car without all four tires "matching" in tread pattern and brand and model.

I still don't see why a Subaru is any different than any other vehicle, AWD or otherwise.

What the heck does AWD have to do with it anyway? All decent cars have stability control (and have had them for a decade or more).

Mine, for example, is a dozen years old and it has DSC, and, all cars, by law, I think nowadays, have stability control.

So, what's different about a Subaru (except the marketing team wants you to "think" they're "special").

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Danny D.

rbowman wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:55:47 -0700:

Actually, you balance the wheel and the tire. But, you're right. You wouldn't be able to tell with those knobbies!

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Danny D.

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