Ralph Mowery wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:44:04 -0500:
Yikes! I hate Sears! I promised myself in 1981 that I'd *never* go
to Sears ever again! I tell everyone *not* to go to Sears!
< begin rant >
When I was young and stupid, I brought my 1970 clunker to Sears for
a $100 alignment.
The car had 90K miles on it and I had failed inspection (in those days,
they lifted the front end and checked for suspension wear).
I brought it to K-Mart, who, for something like $20 told me I needed
to replace the idler arm, the pitman arm, and the tie rod ends.
I replaced all of them, and started to do the alignment but quickly
realized that I just didn't have the tools to MEASURE the angles
correctly (and to convert inches to degrees, etc.). I got as far
as doing the toe but gave up when it came to camber and caster.
I had MARKED EVERYTHING though, with yellow nail polish, because
I wanted a before-and-after look at things (I was pretty detailed,
So I take it to Sears, pay my $100, and watch they guy. He never
once touched the car, but at one point, I was distracted by the shop
asking me to pay so maybe he did the work while I wasn't looking?
Anyway, I pay and drive home and put the car on a lift to snap
pictures. Guess what. Not a single eccentric was touched! Not one.
I could tell because I was sloppy with the nail polish and not a
single bolt was even MOVED!
The bastards. They stole my money. And my time. And, I'm sure,
I wasn't the only one.
I go back. I complain. They put it on the lift. Not a single thing
was right except for the toe (which "I" had done myself!).
Turns out, they mechanic *ADMITTED* he didn't do a thing!
He said his charts only went back 10 years and my car was 11 years
old! Can you believe that.
I should have complained to high heaven and gotten a refund.
I just let them re-align it.
I wasn't as crotchety when I was young, but I would have complained
to the district attorney or something had I been the age I am now.
It's criminal what Sears does to rip off people.
I watch all my alignments like a hawk watching a mouse now.
Sears sucks. I will *never* ever go to Sears for the rest of my
life, and I make sure everyone knows how bad they are.
I'm sorry you worked there, and I do apologize for the diatribe.
It's not your fault they are criminals. It's their fault.
< end rant >
I was about 19 at the time. Just a part time job while in school.
I don't know about the quality of work, but at that store I know they did
make an attempt at doing whatever was suspose to be done, maybe others
I do know lots of places will rip you off. Local Ford dealer did to a
friend. He took a car with a V8 to get the plugs changed. It came back
with the same miss in the engine it had. They only changed 7 plugs as the
8th was very hard to get to. He went back and complained and was asked how
he knew the plug was not changed. He said because 7 were of one brand and
the hard to get to was another.
I hate that a local 'shade tree mechanic' got too old and quit. He was an
honest man and good at what he did. I had him to do several jobs for me
like changing a timing belt. He recommended a few othe things such as the
water pump as it was driven by the belt and all it was 4 bolts to do it.
Said it would not be any more labor and just his cost of the part. Bet not
many if any dealers would do that.
Ralph Mowery wrote, on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:13:01 -0500:
This is true.
Anyone, not only Sears, can rip you off.
That's why I recommend my own kids do three simple things when they bring their
cars to a mechanic:
1. Mark everything (e.g., mark the plugs, bolts, water pump, etc.)
2. Ask for the old parts back (they'd better be the same marked parts!)
3. Watch them while they're working (if they let you)
Actually quite a few would. I know mine did. It's the only way to keep
customers. Treet them like GOLD. The car salesman sells a customer
his first car from the dealership. The service department sells him
the next - and the next - if there is a next.
That was the beemer dealer.
But both bimmer and beemer dealers (which are usually under different
ownership) screw you.
They don't call 'em stealers for nothin'.
Only three things you get/do at the stealer:
1. Warranty work
2. Recall work
3. Oddball parts you need this very moment
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:22:05 -0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
What's the difference between a Bimmer and a Beemer????
Anyone crazy enough to buy a second one deserves what he gets. Crazy
enough or rich enough that the criminally high expenses don't mean
anything to them
Anyone saying the wrong word is an idiot poser.
A beemer is the bike.
A bimmer is not the bike; it's the car.
The name has a *long* history.
Anyone who says it wrong is an idiot because it means they don't
know the absolute least about the thing that they ride or drive.
It's just like if a guy says he "drives" a beemer.
Nobody "drives" a beemer.
You ride a beemer; you drive a bimmer.
You just sound stupid if you don't know the basic difference.
There is a long history on all of this.
Let me dig it up... click ... click ... google ... google ...
Here is a decent description:
BTW, it doesn't matter what *you* (or I) think; it matters that anyone
who knows anything about bimmers or beemers know this, and anyone who
knows absolutely nothing about bimmers or beemers doesn't know this.
You save bimmer I say beemer.... All I know about the subject is the
Hells Angels came here on their summer run. Despite the massive police
overreaction, they minded their own business and it was an uneventful
weekend. When the BMW riders came to town, not so much.
Ed Pawlowski wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 14:11:17 -0500:
That you don't give a damn is perfectly acceptable.
That you think BMW owners are all snobs, is just as acceptable.
I was just answering the question because someone asked what the
difference was between a bimmer and a beemer (and, anyone who
knows the least bit about them, already knows the difference).
Once I answered the question, we should have been done with
If, after being told the simple answer, they *still* want to
call it the wrong thing, then that's up to them. Not me.
If they want to call a tire a wheel, who am I to argue with them?
If they want to call a nail a screw, who am I to argue with them?
If they want to call a wheelcover a hubcap, who am I to argue with them?
I was simply answering the question.
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:54:46 -0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
It is a BMW whether it has 2 wheels or 4. Bimmer or Beemer are both
just bastardizations of the same name. You want to think there is a
difference, go right ahead., If a Boston Beaner says Bimmer it'll come
out Beemer anyway.
rbowman wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:02:08 -0700:
Just so you understand the etymology, it never started with Bayerische.
It started with Beeser (as in BSA) motorcycle racers.
When BMW started bike racing in the UK, they called 'em "beemers".
Then, when BMW started selling cages in the USA, they called the cages "beemers".
So, the etymology has absolutely nothing to do with Bayerische.
NOTE: It's all in the millions of articles on the same topic, since
this is the very first thing any BMW owner learns, even before learning
Disa and Vanos and CCV, etc. (which every BMW owner also knows well).
Never drove the cage version. The closest I came was an Audi. Never buy
one of the first efforts of a company known for rear engine, RWD cars to
build a front engine, FWD vehicle. They must have gotten much better at it.
What can I say. I rode a BMW -- once. I wouldn't mind an old airhead,
but then I'd have to spend a lot of time working on said old airhead.
Most of the new ones look too much like a raptorsaurus for my taste.
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