Getting electrocuted in bathtub - is it possible with plastic pipes? (2025 Update)

Nov 06, 2019 Last reply: 8 months ago 109 Replies

Well, as I wrote previously, one of us certainly is...

Your claim of requiring 77kv to jump an inch open air gap isn't accurate. Sorry, but, it's not.

I really don't care what you think of me. :) I'm not here for a popularity contest.

Funny, the first video I provided you, that you didn't check out at the time is showing an arc being initiated over an inch of open air; nowhere near 77kv as you claimed. Initially spread far enough apart to intentionally prevent it from sustaining a solid mostly purple line of electricity (hehehe) at the frequency and duty cycles I used in the video on a crippled power source to further limit the resulting arc (easily four amps under what the coil would prefer) and it's still initiating an arc over an inch long. A hot arc, at that.

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At about 2:12 into the video, I moved the arc points a little closer; it's still over an inch. It's now sustaining the arc so I can show you what changes to the frequency and some to the duty cycle do as a result. See the whiskers forming and leaving? One arc becomes many and nearly one again, all over frequency and duty cycle changes.

So, enough with your bullshit. The statement you wrote that I took issue with is your claim of needing 77kv to jump an inch of open air. Your statement is not true. It doesn't take that much voltage to do it. EoD.

Heh, I did say it was a crude circuit...It works well enough for the intended purpose. I'm sure many people who eat microwaved food would agree. Er, that is, people who like microwaved food in the first place. Personally, I'm not what you'd call a fan.

You must have a unique definition for HV realm. As the one i'm familiar with uses flybacks, ignition coils, mots, pole pigs (if you're fortunate enough to be able to legally obtain one that's still operational), and C-Ws. Several ways in which to get HV for a variety of uses. There's nothing wrong with using both for some situations, either. CRT televisions did, Some POS tasers do as well. Just two examples you should be familiar with, maybe the 2nd not first hand, but you should? understand how they work.

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I'm glad you've taken the time to educate yourself some about how a microwave works. Really, I am. But, you don't need to share what you've just learned about them with me. I already know this stuff. I'm not the one who confused the circuit for something else, entirely. That was you and another poster. :)

Yes, actually they do. it doesn't take much heat in a confined space to keep that area above freezing for the dog. Especially when the dog has proper bedding. It's not intended to make it 80 f****ng degrees in there.

That's right, keep making ignorant assumptions based on the nym I'm posting with and the tagline generator i'm using. It's highly amusing.

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Diesel snipped-for-privacy@haph.org wrote in news:XnsAB03AFA77D4EDHT1 @SB7B2EdC4.9ma4.rx:

You are a f****ng retard for running an AC line to a dog house to start with you retarded f*ck.

This ia a modern world. We use LED lighting here and it runs on DC.

Unless you are also retarded enough to purchase, and feed an LED fixture that runs on AC when there is no need.

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So, are you suggesting an LED that runs on batteries then? Still won't do anything for the dog. And I really don't feel like f****ng with batteries all winter. Or relying on some bullshit 'solar charger' to do it for me.

You were either writing about a battery powered LED, or running a DC power source to the LED. Intentionally vague on your part? :)

Either way, an LED isn't going to generate the heat a 60watt incandescent bulb will provide.

Please, do continue showing us what little you understand about thermal dynamics along with everything else you've demonstrated not having a firm grasp of. It's fascinating to me.

You seem to be new to SED, it is no point debating with AlwaysWrong..

Instead, please give some info about distance, air pressure, humidity, contamination and various discharge modes before a full arc.

The other question is what voltage at what distance is required to maintain a full arc discharge in AC vs. DC. For DC, about 50-55 Vdc is required to _maintain_ an arc millimeters long as seen in old arc street lamps in the 1880's (30 lamps in series from a 1500 Vdc generator with 6 A loop current).

Diesel snipped-for-privacy@haph.org wrote in news:XnsAB03F315DF14DHT1 @hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

You retarded f*ck. It was your stupid post that I responded to.

3kV per mm. Get used to it, child.

Diesel snipped-for-privacy@haph.org wrote in news:XnsAB03F31648294HT1 @hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

Please go play with a line transformer up on a pole.

Move the nodes closer to you.

Diesel snipped-for-privacy@haph.org wrote in news:XnsAB03F316C8E9AHT1 @hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

Idiot. Anyone getting within an inch of ANY high OR even medium voltage source is stupid. Just like you. Your brain is bent, boy.

Your experiments are dumb and decidedly unscientific.

Do you even know what the word empirical means?

Paschen did, way back in 1889.

Diesel snipped-for-privacy@haph.org wrote in news:XnsAB03F316C8E9AHT1 @hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

I did not see your retarded video, you stupid f*ck.

I gave an example of a low capacity 10kV transformer.

I never said it had anything to do with anything you f****ng posted a link for. See line one above.

A 60W light bulb will keep a faucet or similar from freezing when it's placed right next to it, but it's surely not going to provide sufficient warmth for a dog in a dog house outdoors in cold climates. Have you measured the temperature? Put a real electric heater in there with a thermostat. When I've left my cat with access to the garage, I've put a large box with an electric heater and thermostat in there for him. 60W is close to worthless.

If you think that's the proper standard for outdoor pets in winter, just keeping the temperature above freezing, it's time for a visit from the animal control officers. And if it's 15F out, a little 60W bulb isn't going to do even that. Shameful.

Heh. Trader, I don't live in the frozen tundra of a climate that you choose to suffer thru for the winter. We don't get snow that lasts for weeks, months etc. We barely even get snow, and if we do, it's a couple of inches that's gone within hours, typically. We have no large snowbanks hiding what used to be streets, either. No telephone poles (and wires too) buried in the s*it, or ice either for that matter.

Next time you want to come at me with an implied threat based on your ignorance of the climate in which I live (I live in the south, not the north as you), be sure and google the subject beforehand. This is a common way of doing things out here. As a matter of f****ng fact, I recently returned from a service call for an animal control officer I know personally. He's the fellow who taught me the light bulb for heat in the winter trick. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Outdoor farm animals in my area of Nebraska are on their own. Unheated dog houses, barns and other such buildings are their refuge. Cattle are fortunate if they have a windbreak. Outbuildings are disappearing as farming is changing. The days of everyone raising a few hogs, cattle, chickens etc are gone.

Diesel snipped-for-privacy@haph.org wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@hT41KfD4S.AXvkLJvJmNJ4s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8 tZfIBcnITL5:

You retarded f*ck. The topic was multipliers, not pole pigs. Damn you are stupid, boy!

The HV DC power supply realm. So you obviously have zero common sense as well. It would be OBVIOUS to ANYONE with electronics knowledge as to what I referred to and that was NOT a f****ng AC pole pig, you f****ng retarded twit!

Your memory is lame too. I already told you I made HV supplies for LANL.

But you are obvously so stupid you do not even know what LANL is.

My supplies are not like tasers, you stupid f*ck. One does not get a second event making a mistake with these supplies.

Please come over and grab hold of one. I promise to NOT resuscitate you. May even try to see what a second jolt will look like coursing through your hopefully already lifeless body.

Some of us have evolved in how we treat our pets, some apparently not so much. Is it so hard and expensive to provide an outdoor pet with a reasonably warm refuge? And a 60W light bulb is a joke. Outbuilding disappearing that gave dogs much better protection is part of the problem.

I made no implied threats. I have however seen you make plenty of actual ones. I simply pointed out that a 60W bulb is fit for keeping a faucet from freezing, it's not going to do much for a dog in freezing weather. Some of us know how to treat pets, others not so much.

(I live in the south, not

Then he's just as dumb as you. Let's put you outside in a dog house in sub freezing temps with a 60W bulb. Too cheap, you shouldn't have pets.

It also depends on the dog. One of my Dad's friends had a husky that preferred to sleep by burrowing into the snow outside. The dog was free to stay inside his human master's house.

I know this for a fact because my Dad took care of the dog for several months while the master was in the big house.

I can keep my 12 foot trailer fairly warm at 32 degrees outside using about

400 watts. A small foam insulated box might get too warm at 60 watts. Need about 2500 watts for the 33 footer, but has more air leaks, to keep close to 70 degrees, but that's continuous power.

Greg

Okay. I doubt they are what you think they are, but, let's see an MID to one and we'll go from there. Maybe it's actually a threat, or, much more likely, something mistaken for being one; from a post, lifted out of context. I'll humour you though, provide an example.

As I told you previously, your climate isn't the same as mine. For the climate in which I reside, the lightbulb in a doghouse suitable for the dog size with proper bedding works well. I don't disagree that wouldn't work in your climate.

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He's college educated, but, I admit, that doesn't really mean much these days. Take you for example. :)

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