Homemade Insecticides - Tobaco

40­60 mg (0.5-1.0 mg/kg) of nicotine can be a lethal dosage for adult humans.

The amount of nicotine that smokers inhale from each cigarette is 1.5 milligrams per cigarette.

The amount of nicotine in a single cigarette is 8 to 9 milligrams on average.

Nicotine affects almost every system in the body. When you take a puff, your heart beats faster, your pulse quickens, your veins constrict, your blood pressure increases. Your adrenal glands pump out adrenaline that increases your heart rate, relaxes many of your smooth muscles, and raises your metabolic rate.  Even the electrical activity in your brain changes.

Totally avoidable.

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Billy
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again.... how much is that dan? Is it the ONE sig(sic) that your teacher rubbed on the rabbits neck?

and so you have said.... among many other things

Common sense is almost non

and you once again have proved your point.

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Reply to
Gunner

quibble? It is you who is pulling at straws here David.

Your analogy is all wrong but please continue to try to connect the dots

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Gunner

Another urban myth for the chattering class.

Seinfeld mocked it. Letterman ranked it in his top ten list. And more than fifteen years later, its infamy continues. Everyone knows the McDonald¹s coffee case. It has been routinely cited as an example of how citizens have taken advantage of America¹s legal system, but is that a fair rendition of the facts? Hot Coffee reveals what really happened to Stella Liebeck, the Albuquerque woman who spilled coffee on herself and sued McDonald¹s, while exploring how and why the case garnered so much media attention, who funded the effort and to what end.

HOT COFFEE, the movie, a documentary feature film by SUSAN SALADOFF was selected to premiere and compete in the U.S. Documentary Competition at the 2011 Sundance Film Festival in Park City.

79 year old Stella Liebeck suffered third degree burns on her groin and inner thighs while trying to add sugar to her coffee at a McDonalds drive through. Third degree burns are the most serious kind of burn. McDonalds knew it had a problem. There were at least 700 previous cases of scalding coffee incidents at McDonalds before Liebeck's case. McDonalds had settled many claim before but refused Liebeck's request for $20,000 compensation, forcing the case into court. Lawyers found that McDonalds makes its coffee 30-50 degrees hotter than other restaurants, about 190 degrees. Doctors testified that it only takes 2-7 seconds to cause a third degree burn at 190 degrees. McDonalds knew its coffee was exceptionally hot but testified that they had never consulted with burn specialist. The Shriner Burn Institute had previously warned McDonalds not to serve coffee above 130 degrees. And so the jury came back with a decision- $160,000 for compensatory damages. But because McDonalds was guilty of "willful, reckless, malicious or wanton conduct" punitive damages were also applied. The jury set the award at $2.7 million. The judge then reduced the fine to less than half a million. Ms. Liebeck then settled with McDonalds for a sum reported to be much less than a half million dollars. McDonald's coffee is now sold at the same temperature as most other restaurants.
Reply to
Billy

Tobacco teas formulas are in this book. An interesting book, but not for gardening.

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Nad R

Well, yes I have Bill who putters. Have you ever heard of the Black Leaf 40 posioning case?

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please do not attempt to equate tobacco tea with something you would drink, or even that you would give a damn. Hopefully there is no one here that is that ignorant. If there is they should be drinking the tea.

Reply to
Gunner

I don't know, Nad. The stuff doesn't look safe ;O)

Reply to
Billy

Its a joke Dumbass!!! but one would expect you to try to p[sycho babble and google BS in an attempt to make yourself look cute, take your pick here:

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it that all you got?

Reply to
Gunner

Again, no one has given any specific amount. again you google wikiin an attempt to justify nothing.

Do you know enough to not drink the tea or do you need to be warned also?

Reply to
Gunner

Actually, it is a cautionary tale about trusting corporate media, even if it isn't the most egregious Fox News. The same media that justified our excuse for going to war, always has an agenda. Our news papers don't give us the facts, they set the scene for us. They tell us that Chavez is a dictator, Morales a drug addict, spending half the world's military budget isn't excessive, and, now, that unions are the reason for our economic collapse. Apparently it had nothing to do with Paulson and Gleitner shoveling trillions of dollars to their friends on Wall Street, when the whole debacle could have been controlled by adjusting the home mortgages, which had been turned into toxic derivatives.

We really can't trust the mass media because 90% of it is owned by 5 corporations.

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Progressive news show Democracy Now!

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Antiwar.com

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From a right-libertarian viewpoint, Strike The Root

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For left-libertarian/anarchist news and viewpoints, see Infoshop News

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Middle east scholar Juan Cole's blog Informed Comment

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Billy

That is a great site!

On my owners manual of my dremel drill the first sentence was a warning label. "DO NOT USE FOR DENTAL WORK" I laughed my head off, because before I bought the thing I joked the salesperson, I could use this thing for dental work!

The sad truth is one has to use the labels because of lawsuits. Say the wrong thing to women - get a sexual harassment suit. Say the wrong word to a police officer and you go to jail. One wrong saying to your boss, "like can I have raise" and your fired. Without label warnings you get sued, with out miranda rights one could go to jail. Without unions your screwed.

Unless you want to live in a communist world when there are no freedoms of speech, no juries, no unions... Then get used to living with labels, people are responsible for what they say and do.

Glad I have dental insurance from my government paid pension plan. For that Dremel label I wonder how many people messed up their teeth with that drill.

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Nad R

Yes, labels are needed to protect yourself from those that are stupid and those that are intelligent by playing stupid. If you do not protect yourself you are stupid!

If your looking for the LD, Lethal Dose, for nicotine it is on the Wikipedia site.

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In the Toxicology section for ingestion and on skin absorption provides the numbers.

Reply to
Nad R

one question before you go David. Would you drink tabacco tea? Do you have neighbors that might?

Good luck with that garden.

Reply to
Gunner

I know what the LD 50 of nicotine is dannabilly, but I suspect you don't quite understand it beyond what you just googled on wiki do you?

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Gunner

Dan writes: "Unless you want to live in a communist world when there are no freedoms of speech, no juries, no unions... Then get used to living with labels, people are responsible for what they say and do."

Really Dan? I'm a bit confused here. You have so far alluded to me being on both sides in this one thread. Please don't be so fickle. Let me know what side your really wanting to be on, the Left or the Right side and I will almost guarentee that I will be on the opposite ? More important is, How does this relate to you needing to be told not to drink Tobacco tea?

Please don't play silly little argument games. Stick to facts and the subject or go to timeout and sit in the corner.

I do have to say that since you two(?) have begun your little diatribes here I am beginning to rethink my premise that folks have enough common sense not to drink tobacco tea. You and lil wildbilly make a very great case for putting warning labels on everything.

Reply to
Gunner

so your TUI again huh?

Reply to
Gunner

The use of pesticides and the LD50 on pesticide labels was taught in my Master Gardeners Classes. Yes I know what LD is about. I listed the site because you kept asking the same stupid question about "Again, no one has given any specific amount". Billy posted the numbers, I posted sites and David used reason and you continue to doubt?

I am beginning to think you are beyond the concept of reason. You live by rhetoric and not reason in which nothing can be explained to you or change your mind. You and I have our beliefs. I live by reason and to change my mind you need logical reasonable steps. When it comes to science, I have a feeling you will take the word of a minister about science over a scientist.

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Nad R

Neither, I am not on the left or the right. By your writings it sounds like your world is black or white, right or wrong, them or us, opposite of the other. My world of right and wrong are two thin lines with a vast grey middle. That is why you are confused because your thoughts are perhaps polarized, positive or negative and cannot understand anything other way of thinking.

By my nature, I protect myself by protecting others. If I state something that might harm another or get someone in trouble by direct or indirect means, I could be in trouble with the law or get sued. By protecting myself I will state the obvious like "Do Not Drink It, because of harm" even though few if any will.

Like before, why state the obvious? Because people will and have done stupid things. Even antifreeze has warning poison labels on them, why? To protect themselves from legal problems. Like those companies to protect myself.

But also not just legal problems. If I said something that caused physical harm to others, if seemed humorous or innocent at the time, I would also feel emotionally bad and I do not want to feel bad. I know others would not feel bad and laugh at others misery. I have a feeling you are in the laugh at others category.

Now as a third person, when others states things that physically harm others. I will laugh at the stupidity of others of both sides. Like your list of warnings. Since I did not directly or indirectly caused the harm, I would not feel guilty or bad. Call me self centered if you wish :)

If this does not answer your question, then I do not know what will.

Reply to
Nad R

And wrongly attributed to David.

A case of McFiction.

Reply to
FarmI

Nad is less venal than some of the posts here David.

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FarmI

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