Sliding table gloat!

[Steve Knight]

nope you take off the 25% then take the 50% off of what's left. this does not come out to 75% off.

[Toller]

I am bit sensitive because a company I was with gave a 50% wholesale discount off retail, with another 10% for orders over $1000. That type of thing was standard in the industry; the hardware industry as a matter of fact. Anyhow, once or twice a year somebody would give me a hard time over why they only got a 55% discount, rather than a 60% discount. It didn't happen often, but it was sure aggravating when it did. I suppose with ten thousand customers, some of them are bound to have new and undertrained clerks now and then.

I haven't seen the Hecht's sale, but I suspect it wasn't like that; I've never seen one that was.

[rob]

Actually, I bought several things, and didn't realize he rung it up wrong til I thought about it later and reviewed the receipt. It sounded right at the time.

[Mark Jerde]

I agree they're rare. I agree it's probable the clerk made a mistake. But I hate to see the OP condemned before all the facts are known... ;-)

-- Mark

[Mark Jerde]

What's wrong with it? The reviews I've read are positive.

-- Mark

[Clint]

Then I apologize for starting this whole sub-thread, Rob. This time with no "buts" or anything. Congrats on your table!

Clint

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[Clint]

Oh yeah, I also apologize for accusing you of gloating about being dishonest/stealing. :) As well as taking over your thread!

Clint

[Mark Jerde]

It's nice to see apologies aired in the same public view as the original misunderstandings. Hats off to you, Clint. May your tribe increase.

-- Mark

[Clint]

Good Lord, no! What kind of a slam is that? May your tribe increase...

:) My two kids are plenty already, and Christmas over at the in-laws is nuts as well. I'm done propagating, and if my tribe increases again, my wife will have a little explaining to do.

Clint

[Mark Jerde]

LOL! No offense intended!

My understanding is the blessing "May your tribe increase" applies to all succeeding generations and their prosperity. It doesn't necessarily mean you have to change any more diapers!

My eldest is graduating from Army basic training next week. The other is a junior in high school. I've done my part; I don't think I have the energy to raise any more from 0-20!

I figured out a few years ago why only fairly young people have children, and they're fairly old by the time the kids are grown. An explosion in my daughter's room could only result in the room being neater... ;-)

-- Mark

[Mark Jerde]

After my eldest son was born he had colic. If he was held at 44.6 degrees incline he was ok. At 44.5 and lower or 44.7 and higher he screamed his tiny lungs out. I still recall one night that I stayed up all night keeping him at 44.6 degrees. Contemporary photos, showing the shadows under my eyes, validate the experience.

This is a survivable activity for a father in his 20's. I'm now in my mid

40's and I think I'd die if I had to do that for more than a couple nights back to back ... ;-)

-- Mark

[Unisaw A100]

Though in the case of the "hunnert dollar jointer" the circumstances were quite different.

The seller approached the buyer.

The seller knew what he paid for it.

The seller solicited a bid from the buyer.

The seller accepted the bid.

Sounds to me like two adult males making an exchange of something the other had for what the other wanted. In other words, a whole nutter kettle of fish.

Now, had the seller been a "widder woman" and the above reversed...

UA100

[Swingman]

Quitcherbitchin' ... my youngest was born when I was 42. She's now 18, I'm 'guess what' and it ain't over yet. In my supposed "quiet, reflective, (woodworking?)" years it's time to pay for (*&*U$76 college .... again!

Actually, she's a joy to me. Beautiful, kind, considerate, 4.0 gpr, with an old fashioned bent and NONE of the cultural trappings/problems/angst of modern youth ... I'd do it again in a heartbeat, as I am sure you would. :)

[Larry Jaques]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:07:18 GMT, Unisaw A100 brought forth from the murky depths:

You forgot the "used and broken/cracked" part, mttt.

You forgot the part about the buyer telling the seller he didn't want to insult him and the seller saying "DO!", Keef.

Nary a defect in the honorable exchange.

It would have been fair game/more fun?

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[Mike in Idaho]

I have to agree with UA100. I love a great deal (just got a Leigh 24" Dovetail Jig for $100) and look for them all the time. Most of the time I try to get a better deal and figure if they accept, then they've accepted. However, one time I saw a brand new Delta 16.5" DP for sale in the paper and was going to ask $150 for it, but when I showed up I found that the husband had just had a stroke and couldn't work the tools anymore and they needed the money for expenses. Ugh, I couldn't do it, so I politely declined and left hoping she might get more from someone else.

Guess it depends on the situation...

Mike

[mel]

being the one whom you claim took advantage of someone in an unethical manner I must defend myself with the following points.

1. This man was the sole owner of the property in question....not an employee of the actual owner.
2. This man asked me to make an offer which he could have refused. I did not beat him down.
3. Broken part aside, the jointer is of a higher value to the likes of us true, however to him it was scrap iron. If you, for some reason, came into 8 tons of potatoes and wanted to get rid of them you'd probably be thrilled to take less than market value. (yeah I know.. stupid but it's a point)
4. I've since helped him find a buyer for some of the other equipment at a price he established.
5. Taking advantage of a good deal where both parties walk away contented isn't unethical...it's just wise.
6. Taking advantage of someone who is down on their luck is unethical..not the case here.
7. You're just friggin jealous.

[Luigi Zanasi]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:50:55 GMT, Larry Jaques scribbled:

From the Anti-FAQ just as a reminder:

1.12 IS THIS A GLOAT? It's a gloat only if you cheat a poor old widder lady out of her rightful inheritance or if you rip off a store by taking advantage of the dumb manager/clerk/cashier's stupidity. Nothing else qualifies, not even Bessey clamps obtained at Sears, regardless of their length.

Luigi Note the new email address. Please adjust your krillfiles (tmAD) accordingly Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address

[Swingman]

You CLEARLY established Market value of that particular item at that particular time. MARKET VALUE = The price agreed upon between a seller, who is not forced to sell, and a buyer, who is not forced to buy.

You're a good man, Charlie Brown ... and still sucketh big time!

[Dave Fleming]

When a poor starving apprentice. The other apprentices and I made it a practice of visiting the Union Hall each week and checking the Bulletin Board for the Death Notices. And then dash like hell to the florist, pick up a bunch of 'posies' and skeedaddle to the home of the newly deceassed shipwright. The ploy went something like this. Show up with 'posies', wearing a long face and pay your respects to the new widow. In the course of converstation casually bring up ' Old Mikes Tools'. If the opening presented itself and sometimes it did... SNAP, like the jaws of a Great White Shark you struck! Go out to the garage or down to the basement and be shown his tool chest/s. Oh and Ah over his nice tools and well you people can figure out the rest of the speil. Poor apprentice, hungry family at home yadda yadda. We ALL got some good deals that way until it got out of hand with some fellas passing on to others outside the trade, what we were up to. Complaints were made to the Hall and changes were made. Now the tools if the family so wished, were brought to the Hall and, on Meeting nights would be auctioned off. With the money going to the family. Since the Meetings were for members only it still was a good way to acquire tools and frankly in the light of my years better behaviour for us apprentices. BUT, I still from time to time, cannot think back to those days without a gleam in my eye over the thrill of the chase.

I have made preparations and given strict instructions to my wife and sons that anything the sons don't want is to be sold/given/passed on to working shipwrights. NOTHING is to go to collectors or dilletantes, period.

PAX Tales of a Boatbuilder Apprentice

[Swingman]

Goes for other "tools" also. I play a 61 Fender Jazz Bass that I've been offered in the neighborhood of $12K for a number of times. SWMBO knows that it _will_ go into the hands of a "player", even it has to go cheap. I feel the same way about my woodworking tools.