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On 12/30/2009 2:48 PM, Leon wrote:

So I presume most of those icons are a result of installing various "plugins":
http://sketchup.google.com/intl/en/download/plugins.html
Any recommended "must haves" from this list?
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----- Original Message -----
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:54 PM Subject: Re: SketchUp Question - Must View

Probably. I am only showing/using 72 icons on my version. Of those icons I probably only use 20 regularily and of those 20 many are simply different view icons. And I typically use a simple keyboard command in place of clicking on an icon.
99% of the time I use
"L" for line, "P" for push/pull, "M" for move, "M + CTL" for copy. "T" for measure, "Space Bar" for select. "Space Bar + CTL" for multiple erase...
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT KEY OF ALL
The letter "G" to make a group of lines that look like a piece of wood into a "COMPONENT" You do not have to name it when prompted if you dont want to, a default name will be provided.

Google Sketchup Plugins and you will get a load of web sites with plugins.
Some sites I like are
http://www.crai.archi.fr/RubyLibraryDepot/Ruby/en_sections.html https://sites.google.com/site/sketchupsage/tweak http://www.srww.com/blog/?p 7 http://www.srww.com/google-sketchup.htm http://www.smustard.com/ Smustard even has a plugin to take you to their site to down load plugins. ;~) Some are pay plug ins.
Plugins I like to have extra
The Angle Dimension plug in. The Cut List 4.0 plug in for transfering your components in the CutListPro opt program. Becareful there are other Cutlist plug ins that IMHO are not as good as CUTLIST "4.0".
And others which I have probably forgotten about due to lack of use.
I also like to assign short cut key strokes to the frequently used icons. I forget where to look but there is a page to print that lists all the short cut key commands and mouse functions. I like to orbit by clicking and holding my middle mouse button and moving the mouse, or in my case my center scroll wheel and thumb ball. I prefer to not click on icons unless necessary, I'd rather press a key or two.
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On 12/30/2009 2:54 PM, Steve Turner wrote:

There are NO icons that are unique to the Pro version.
Many of those icons are most likely from plug-ins, but it is ridiculous to have that many, IMO.
I posted a picture of my plug-in directory a month or so back ... I'll see if I can bump it up. None of mine have icons on the tool bar, the few I do use are in a drop down list boxes under "Plug-ins".
I really don't use that many ... most just make it more convenient to do something that some users simply haven't gotten around to learning how to do ... a la training wheels on a bicycle.
That said, there are some plug-ins that are really handy for construction projects, like plug-ins for drawing frame walls between two points, with the ability to use either 2x6 or 2x4's, put in windows and doors, with different parameters for headers. I use those when designing structures, but for woodworking projects, except for the CutList plugin, I most often use only the tools on the toolbar (same in both versions) and no other plug-ins whatsoever.
AMMOF, using SketchUp, I just designed and built a $20,000 deck for a client and used no plug-ins whatsoever. Didn't even need the Pro version for "presentation" because I sent the client the .skp file as they had the free version already loaded on their Mac.
FWIW, here is just the framing plan for that deck that I simply printed out for RFQ's, and for the actual construction:
http://www.e-woodshop.net/files/Deck-Concept6PierBeam .zip
I did a much fancier version for the client, with the house and deck together, but it is bit big to post on my server.
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On 12/30/2009 3:49 PM, Swingman wrote:

Here's a prntscrn dump of my SU plug-in directory:
http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/PlugInDir.jpg
As you can see, a good many are for construction and not woodworking.
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:13:45 -0600, the infamous Swingman

Cool! I see there are ruby scripts for timberframers, too. Whuffo you no gots? How many of those did you buy? sMustard and...what else, if I may ask?
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On 12/31/2009 11:02 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:

These were all free, IIRC ... I don't remember ever spending a penny on plug-ins.
I rarely use most except for construction stuff, mainly for stairs, floor joists, and frame walls with windows, doors and headers for same. These were all free, if I'm not mistaken.
The cutlist plugin (free), which exports to CutListPlus, is something I do use for woodworking, and I'm pretty sure that Leon makes good use of it also.
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Cutlists are way cool. The one I now use allows for grain orientation, tool diameter, etc. (I'm sorry, it is a bit of a drive-by) http://www.vectric.com/WebSite/Vectric/aspire/whats_new/aspire_v2/whats_new_nesting.htm
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Cutlists are way cool. The one I now use allows for grain orientation, tool diameter, etc. (I'm sorry, it is a bit of a drive-by) http://www.vectric.com/WebSite/Vectric/aspire/whats_new/aspire_v2/whats_new_nesting.htm
Now allows grain orientation???? I thought all of them had that....years ago.
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Errrrmmm on straight boards, yes. On random shapes? Years ago? Okay then. *S*
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:20:10 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy

What, 'only' $2,000? I'll take two! Hey, I saw a reference to Steve Knight in their gallery. He evidently has a ShopBot and V-carve.
I was very impressed with SoftPlan's cutlist and BOM listings. It's roughly $3k, as is ChiefArchitect. (Scratch those, damnit.)
OK, SketchUp free version it is.
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wrote:

Knighttools is a well respected participant on more than one forum. Even though I don't run a Shopbot, I get most of my 'inside scoop' from their sign making forum. The Vectric forum is also very useful and more specific to their software. Those Vectric people are some very fine folk. (BTW, the Partsworks pgm that comes with ShopBot is a Vectric product.)
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On 12/31/2009 7:09 PM, Robatoy wrote:

That's a whole 'nother world there, brother Rob ... makes me tired thinking about what it would take to just get started.
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:09:59 -0600, the infamous Swingman

I saw the $79 price on the grab-it-all from sMustard, so I thought you might have done that.

Even better!

Bueno, bwana.
I'll definitely be installing SketchUp on the new box, if I EVER get to it. With all this rain, I'm happy to have a couple new websites to do right now.
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