On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:01:56 -0800 (PST), the infamous Jay Pique
Like it or not, -most- Wally World employees are quite happy. If you
don't believe me, walk up to any employee and ask "Are you happy
working here?" Let us know what you come up with. Be fair, though.
Don't start by saying "Your manager makes 10x times more money than
you. Is that OK?" Ask around town, too, so you get a good feel for
it, then let us know.
Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.
Hey, don't get sore; I think you've got the symptoms pretty much nailed.
It's your analysis that's a little bit off.
Yes, we have (by whatever means and for whatever reason) ceded our once
economic dominance of the world to others, primarily the Chinese and
India. Our practice of offshoring is at least partly to blame. Part of
it may have been economically inevitable--the ironclad rule that greedy
capitalists always seek the cheapest labor, and if "they" are "willing"
to work for 1/10 of our wages, production will relocate there. (Of
course, this pretty much glosses over how "willing" they are, how
attempts to unionize are grounds for being killed, little or no
workplace safety rules, little or no basic human rights, etc., etc.)
Plus, not all that we get from them (China, at least) is junk. The
quality is increasing all the time. And why not? After all, these are
the folks who were making great technological advances while our
(European) forbears were shivering in caves.
I am a Canadian who was born and raised in The Netherlands. I live on
Planet Earth on a spot of land called Canada. We have noisy neighbours.
The United States accounts for about one-quarter of the world's GDP. That
number shows no signs of diminishing. China's GDP is growing, true, but that
of the US is growing faster. Economic activity is not, in spite of what many
liberals think, a zero-sum game.
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:40:55 -0500, the infamous Greg
Is it any wonder? The prices our goods have been driven to by the
liberals, attorneys, and unions are 3 to 50 times that of the exact
same item produced in China. But they do still buy a lot of our
products. Just nothing in comparison, quantity-wise.
The public is being squeezed by increased prices, resulting in their
screaming for lower prices. Businesses find that they could lower
prices (and increase shares) by several methods. They respond by
changing sources (like offshoring, import only) and building factories
overseas. Result: More people out of work, screaming for lower
How much of this is the result of the gov'ts (city/county/state/fed)
reacting to idiots? How much is the result of corporations being led
by stockholders, who demand that the corp maximize their earnings?
It's a complex problem we won't work out here.
If you dislike the USA so much, Greg, you _are_ free to move, right?
Or we could get back to woodworking, which is already in progress...
Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.
The ag export business is one of if not the largest positive
contributors to the trade deficit we have yet we can't get
congress-critters to move on several outstanding trade agreements to
further open certain (primarily South/Central-American at this time)
markets by eliminating or substantially reducing their currently high
import duties... :(
We have negotiated deals w/ several countries _they_ want authorized,
yes. These are bilateral agreements, not US-imposed. The delays are
not on substantial bases, only primarily that production agriculture
gets very little attention or has any support in current administration
as compared to other (as seen to them as more important) issues.
US is also party to WTO agreements and is in continuing negotiations
there w/ EU.
S. Korea, China and some specific others have restricted beef and pork
imports quite severely over ill-founded (as in contravening general
worldwide science-based standards) and local politics.
In the meantime, the US is importing significant other areas from places
that don't necessarily follow our practices in regulating pesticide
usage, labor rules and so on at very low or no tariff levels.
That's nonsense. The US had BSE before Canada but the USDA was
successfully hiding it. If you think about how cattle moved in BOTH
directions over the before the BSE crisis broke, you'll recognize that
to say it came from Canada is, pardon the expression, bullshit.
I think you misunderstand...of _course_ and I expect them to; that's
their job and they're failing miserably if they don't immediately react
to do same.
Nothing the Canadians did during and following the initial discovery was
not in what they saw as their best interests--as, for the most, part I
think the US reaction was handled about as well as it could have been
for damage control by USDA and various other organizations. It's just
that some of those actions/statements made weren't necessarily conducive
in aiding the US in mitigating the magnitude of the ensuing economic
impact. And, of course, that's not particularly surprising; through it
all they were continuing to figure out what they could/should do to
preserve their own markets and potentially grow them as a side benefit.
IOW, "let no crisis go to waste".
Each party has to look out primarily for the interests of their
constituents while trying to find mutually-beneficial positions. That's
what makes trade negotiations such contentious and difficult things and
why there's disagreement on "who's right/who's wrong" depending on the
perceived needs and objectives of each side.
OTOH, factual information that can be verified is something else and the
other participant in this conversation doesn't seem to have any other
than "off-the-record" supposed true confessions of some official.
Given the state of keeping secrets in DC, if such a statement had been
made to a news source in Canada by any one w/ actual factual basis for
it, it goes beyond credible that the same or another like-minded insider
would be able to refrain from making the same or similar
revelation/accusation to the Washington Post or one of the other
ag-bashing media outlets in the States and all h--- would've broken over it.
Nor does anything you've said have any factual corroborating evidence
behind it you've pointed to other than hearsay.
Given the massive amount of testing done after the event and the lack of
positive findings, there's no evidence to support that assertion of
there being or had been a problem in US herds outside the above connections.
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