How do women think?

[damduck-egg]

I don't have a problem with shooting rats with a non FAC Air rifle, Do need a bit of patience but they tend to move along the same run and often within the same time window. Their eyesight isn't fantastic ,They rely more on hearing and scent which is understandable for a burrowing animal. So staying quiet with clothing that doesn't rustle and downwind with the air rifle pointing roughly on the run the rat is often stationary or just ambling along. At night a maglight taped to the barrel was useful as well if you knew roughly where ratty was by hearing him and suddenly switching on,the night vision sight I have now makes it even stealthier. Using a compressed air rifle with a 10 pellet magazine you can often get a 2nd rat before they reach the safety of a burrow. Though I haven't seen any for a while now,usually get them when the adjacent cornfield is Harvested.

G.Harman

[ARW]

We will see on Friday

[Vir Campestris]

Can't think what for.

The law restricts the energy, so a heavier round would be much slower.

Andy

[polygonum]

He did not say that he saw it in the UK.

Somewhat surprised this one is battery powered.

[John Rumm]

You can get more powerful ones, but they need a FAC.

IIRC there is a large calibre air rifle out there that will take something the size of an elk at 100 yards.

[tony sayer]

IS Phil Allison in that one I'm sure Dave Plowman will know who I mean;!!...

[Adrian]

TWO HUNDRED QUID per night in a cattery? You what? Last one we used was just over a tenner.

Or is "Pussy cat hotel" being used as a euphemism for the vets? I wonder what a night in private hospital costs...?

[meow2222]

then pick another vet

NT

[Nightjar]

Over Christmas, I paid £7.50 a day, or £6.50 each for cats sharing, (double on Christmas Day and Boxing Day) including giving medication as required.

Difficult to tell, as they usually do an all-in price for treatment and after care.

[tony sayer]

Yep;!..

Dare'nt ask questions like that!...

[whisky-dave]

Anyone see that item on a car park in kensgnton where a car clean starts at about £1,500 for a basic to over £8000 !

[Johny B Good]

I rather fancy very few people would. It doesn't matter if there are any 'nuggets of truth' in his postings when they're swamped by a quagmire of 'untruths'. Life's just too short to go out of your way in looking for any points of merit in such postings, It's best simply to discount them with as little consideration as possible.

[Johny B Good]

You're possibly thinking of this one from the end of the 18th century:

[ARW]

Faster - but a different method to the vets.

They can get funny about such things. And if the vet is one you have not met before..........

[John Rumm]

I think ours was running at about £160/day for kitty hospital at the start of this year... not including medications etc.

[John Rumm]

The one I actually had in mind is:

[Vir Campestris]

****!

English law is 12 ft-lb. That one is 130...

Andy

[Johny B Good]

A blinged up 'peashooter' by comparison to the famous Austrian 20 shot .46 cal air rifle of the late 1780s which was a much more lethal weapon than the firearms of the day. It was, of course, a little ahead of its time, especially in regard to manufacturing techniques and materials.

I'm not absolutely certain but I seem to recall reading about it in an actual paper book (probably a library book) some years before I had internet access. A book that might have caught my interest due to my owning a BSA Meteor .22 air rifle.

When I read about the Austrian army's repeating air rifle of the late

1780s, I was quite impressed by the fact that it was rather more lethal than the firearms of the day, a fact that remains stuck in my memory ever since.

If you ever want to put down anyone who disparages air guns as being mere toys, just remind them of the Girandoni repeating .46 calibre air rifle issued to the Austrian army over two centuries ago. :-)

[tony sayer]

There're all Air guns, well air or gas of a sort, all generated by compressors or violent burning of chemicals;)..

[Johny B Good]

The main distinction is that an air gun relies on pre-compressed air or a gas like carbon dioxide whereas a firearm relies on rapid combustion to generate the propellant gas. The absence of muzzle flash is a highly desired feature in the specialist air/gas powered sniper rifles used in nightime operations since it reduces the risk of attracting incoming return fire.

Air guns also split into two classes, the first type already discussed with it's compressed air reservoir and special release valve mechanism and the second type (that BSA Meteor I mentioned) which uses the energy of a spring to operate a single stroke pump piston to create the required burst of air pressure to propel the projectile.

The attraction of the spring powered air gun is that much less energy is required to achieve the same foot pounds rating (although to a lower limit than is possible with a pump up weapon).

In this case, the use of air compression is a neat way to translate the leisurely speed of energy release of the spring into a very high speed impetus on the projectile, allowing the projectile to absorb as much of the slow speed kinetic energy released by the spring and its pump plunger.

Two advantages accrue from this arrangement. The first being the reduction of heat lost in the compression phase, the second being the elimination of a special high pressure release valve. For modest powers, there's also the advantage that it takes just a single stroke of energy input to c*ck the spring for each shot.