Cigarette smoke perculates through the walls from next door. Ugh. How can I seal it?

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IMM wrote:

Especially since a very slanted suite o #staistics' was presented, and no one counted teh cost of lkeeping all thise ex smokers alive for teh extra ten years each...

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It certainly was. Dressing up guesses as facts is very bad practice.
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It's a toughie. Pain is the bodies way of telling you something is wrong and needs attention. In trauma, the bodies shock reaction dulls the pain to allow flight or fight reactions. Doing the same through medicine is very difficult and often creates side-effects that are worse than the pain. Medicine is partly to blame, a couple of hundred years ago you'd already be dead from it and it's a non-issue. The body isn't designed to be repaired as we can now.
Have you considered medical marijana? Supposed to be very good for pain relief, without the side-effects.
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Nah! His pain is through trying to think.
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"Fraser" wrote | "Andy Hall" wrote | > My point was that people should not be subjected to it in confined | > public places and especially not where food and drink is served. | But a bar isn't a public place. It's owned by the landlord or the | brewery. How they do things within their doors is their choice. | Don't like it, don't go there.
Whilst customers usually have the choice, staff don't. There are (according to the radio this morning) 35 or 36 totally non-smoking pubs in Britain. Some others have non smoking rooms or areas. So if you want to work in a pub (and in a village it may be the only source of employment in the evenings for someone who has childcare responsibilities during the day) you're compelled to work in a smoky atmosphere.
I wouldn't accept a member of bar staff smoking on hygiene grounds, and if I've just spent good money on a quintuple Lagavulin I don't want any added smokiness in it from customers either.
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That'll be why they're called "public houses", will it?
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Huge wrote:

Yes. Its like public schools. You have to pay to be there, and they have the right to refuse you.

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Yes - just like public schools.
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You don't have to go there. If the proprietor chooses to allow smoking in part or in full and you don't like it, go somewhere else. There is no should about it, but you can exercise choice.
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Imm wrote:

If I am travelling and have to stop, what choice do I have? I should not have to look at signs or anything else, there should be no health hazard toxic fumes in public places FULL STOP!!!! It is that simple.
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IMM wrote:

There should be free everything, no work, and no need to listen to your drivel.
Sadly, or perhaps fortunately, you are not God, and cannot make it thus. Nor can any government, so grow up and stop whiffling out of your anal cavity.

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Imm wrote:

no
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Our resident fool...is having a go now...

..sad isn't it. And he continues...

...and wasn't that good?
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Hmm, I'm not sure I agree with you there, are you seriously telling me that having a television on doesn't preclude most other activities in the vicinity?
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So a massive number of people no longer go to bars and restaurant in New York? I wonder were they now go socially?
I wonder how many bar and restaurant businesses in New York failed on a daily basis before the ban came into place and were never reported? The smoking lobby then complied the figures of closed businesses after the ban and concluded that the result was due to the ban alone.
If a ban is universal then there would be advantage or disadvantage of one business over another except in the level of service or quality they provide.
6 pubs a day close in the UK because there is no ban on smoking! (and if a ban was introduced I bet the figure would be - 6 pubs a day)
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I know many people who like to drink and socialise, that just will not go into pubs because of the smoke. Socialising at homes is becoming far more common in the UK. Socialising at homes was a thing only people did in films at one time.
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I wouldn't have thought spending time with friends was some new thing. Most folk do it several times a week. I generally go to a gathering/party with at least 8-10 folk at least once a week. It's called "having a life", and it's not a new thing. I can't remember any of my friends (mostly non-smokers by the way) ever saying that smoking stops them going out, half the time we meet up in the pub instead anyway.
Besides, there are many other reasons far more relevant in why more folk might stay home instead of drinking. The rise of suburban living, where the car is king. Kinda hard to go for a drink when you can't get home.
Also, something you have overlooked. Getting drunk on alcohol is very bad for you. Most folk live under the illusion that their drinking is moderate and not harmful. The act of getting drunk is like a sledgehammer to the brain. Less than two drinks in one day is probably OK, any more than that, and you are doing yourself genuine harm.
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Fraser wrote:

And IMM is living proof of that to be sure, begorrah. :-)

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It's about time we considered what alternatives there are to the soviet style system we have now.
Why can't I buy topical steroid creams over the counter in a supermarket? In the states I can buy hydrocortisone cream in big tubes at Walgreens for USD 4 upwards. here I've got to go to a Pharmacy and tell the pimply 17 year old youth why I want it in the full view of the whole store. It's as expensive as hell and the tubes are tiny. This has nothing to do with maintaining a lucrative monopoly for the pharmacists of course. Also BTW, in the states I've bought bottles of *500* aspirins for USD 3.00 each, buy 2 get 1 free!
SWMBO has a regular prescription for hypertension tablets. She can only have 8 weeks tablets at a time, she has to physically trog back to the health centre to get a new supply. They need 48 hours notice to write out a new prescription. This is a purely administrative restriction she doesn't have to see a doctor, there is no patient welfare reason for this inconvenience. Last time she was there they said she would have to make an appointment to see the doctor for him to ask if she had any side effects, "But he asked me when I saw him last week ", "that's no good" they said "You have to make an appointment for that express purpose and attend here" "They, (the NHS) come round and inspect our computer to make sure we are doing it".
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There have been times when I've felt almost sorry for the way you are sometimes abused on this group but this has to be the most unmitigated pile of dogs whoopsie you've ever put your name to. "Some" people losing their jobs? Several thousand I'd have thought. Society not changing in a negative way? You must have bloody deep pockets or an optimistic point of view if you don't think Gordon Brown won't screw your plums to the wall to replace his lost revenue. Or are you one of the unbrainwashed non-smoking elite who know that banning smoking will enable everyone to live forever in peace and harmony, banish hunger and disease and put the Great back in Britain? The previous poster had a valid point when he suggested market forces should apply. If everyone wanted no smoking bars and eateries and voted with their feet then no smoking they would be. However, perhaps normal people prefer the company of smokers to the sad arsed politically correct who inhabit the strictly no smoking venues...
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In a society of 60 million that is not much at all. They decided to import cheap Taiwanese steel and whole city, Sheffield, went down the pan, and no one cared.

He will get the money from other sources. That money spent on Tobacco will be spent on something else.

You are mad!

Market forces do apply to heath !!!!! Got it !!!! I should have the freedom to go into any place with its doors open to the public and not breath in toxic fumes. If people want to kill themselves slowly then they can have private members clubs to prevent my freedom being infringed upon. It is that simple!!!!
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