Ashton, I've driven STANDARD SHIFT cars with left foot braking in
competition - I know what is involved and my feet work well together
when it is done for that purpose. The brain needs to be well engaged
when doing it, and it has NOTHING to do with reaction time and
I've also left foot braked front drive automatic cars for the same
purpose. On low powered automatics it is not as effective, and with
ABS it doesn't work at all. The practice of jabbing the brake with the
left foot to hang out the rear on a front drive car in competition
started with Saab drivers, where the hand brake acting on the FRONT
wheels of the front drive car, could not be used to break the rear end
loose to slide it through the corners. Then guys like Colin found it
was easier to do it even on cars with rear hand brakes because it
freed up one hand.
Left foot braking an automatic car on the street is a poor and
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:54:46 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You can make unsupported statements of OPINON as many times as you
want but it doesn't turn it into anything other then YOUR opinion. LFB
on the street is a very safe and very effect way to engage in
defensive driving and as a side benefit it allows for smoother driving
if you are interested in the comfort of your passengers. It does
require a higher level of training and skill and consequently not many
people do it. That is not simply opinion, the PHYSICS of how it is
applied, by the info posted here by others, shows at a minimum there
is a gain of 0.2 seconds (equivalent to nearly 20 feet at 60 mph, a
common freeway speed) if the only thing you do is drive EXACTLY like a
RFB except that you move your left foot into position half a second
sooner then you/they would have moved your/their right foot into
position. That is the MINIMUM gain from LFB and has nothing to do
with MY opinion or anyone else's, it's just a FACT.
Passenger comfort? Now you're really going into lala land.
I'd say most people don't do it because nobody that I know of was ever
trained that way. People typically take driver ed in high school or
a private driving school. I ridden with countless people over the
years and can't recall a single one of them that was a left foot
braker. Now, if it's so much safer and such a superior technique,
why do you suppose that no driving schools apparently teach it? The
NJ drivers manual recommends right foot braking, which strongly
suggests that at least in this state, it's unlikely it's going to be
I failed the NJ driving test decades ago for left foot braking. The
driving test guy asked me where I learned it. I told him my father,
which was actually only partly true. My father did teach me to
drive, but apparently he wasn;t very good at it. I don't recall him
ever telling me which foot to use. I just wound up starting out that
way by chance and he didn't correct me. I quickly switched to right
foot usage and found it easier, more logical and I believe safer,
especially when you also drive stick shifts.
First, I don't think anyone has proven that you gain .2 secs. But
even if you assume it's true, it's largely meaningless, because you
have acknowledged that you don't have your foot hoovering most of the
time. I'll bet in reality it's a small percentage of the time. So,
when the unexpected happens, your foot may actually take LONGER to get
there because it's resting further away on the floor. As to starting
the "superior" hoovering procedure when you feel the need for caution,
I have an even better idea. Just slow down right then like the rest
of us and gain not just your alleged 18ft, but as much distance as you
need to be safe. I can picture you in my rear view mirror, tailgating
and unwilling to just increase the seperation, because you don't want
to give up that extra 18 feet or bring alleged discomfort to your
passengers and have great confidence in your alleged superior stopping
So just how do you know when an emergecny is going ot occur so you can
put you Left foot over the pedal? You keep harping about reaction
time. That only counts in emergencies when you have you foot on the
floor....unless you consistently tail gate of course.
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:50:47 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
might need to brake at any time you take your RIGHT foot off the
accellerator, and while it is still in motion, without having to
command the LEFT foot to do anything, you hit the brakes.
Much faster reaction time, and NO CHANCE that both feet will be down
at the same time on both pedals.
Left foot braking IS dangerous - it doesn't matter how many years YOU
have gotten away with it..
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:27:04 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
how ridiculous. whatever you can do with your right foot you can do
just as quickly with your left foot. The difference is that you can
pre-position your left foot in situations where you would not be
taking your right foot off the throttle. In doing so you eliminate
about a half second of reaction time should that situation deteriorate
to where you do need to brake. There is nothing dangerous about left
foot braking, to the contrary, it's safer then right foot braking. You
sound like a hysterical old woman.
The ONLY reason that braking with the right foot is customary is
because cars used to have a third pedal for the clutch. If the first
cars had come equipped with automatic transmissions, NO ONE would use
their right foot for braking. It would be stone cold stupid to do
everything with one foot, unless your other foot had been amputated.
Do these chuckleheads steer with only one hand, because in the olden
days, you needed your other hand for shifting?
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