What have been the worst home handyman accidents you've had,or seen so far ?

Eh, the courts have NOT consistently held that it's an individual right. Just the opposite, in fact.

However, the issue is up for grabs again. Within this decade two Circuit Courts of Appeals have reached opposite conclusions on this issue, one that supports the individual right (Fifth Circuit, United States v. Emerson, 270 F.3d 203) and one that denies it (Ninth Circuit, Silveira v. Lockyer, 312 F.3d 1052). This conflict puts pressure on the Supreme Court to finally decide the issue, but don't count your chickens. It may be very difficult to find a test case.

FWIW, the issue has been brewing in the highest reaches of legal theorizing since the publication, in the Yale Law Review, of Sanford Levinson's article, "The Embarrassing Second Amendment" (1989). The article is widely available online for anyone who's interested.

Laurence Tribe (the most famous liberal legal scholar) caused a furor a few years by swinging, to a large degree, to the individual-rights position. It is an extremely hot issue in legal scholarship today, part of a broader turmoil of re-thinking various rights issues.

-- Ed Huntress

Nor have you to contend that guns are a panacea to prevent crime - it's clear the stats prove you wrong.

If you want to carry this on, do it in one newsgroup only - preferably not uk.d-i-y so I don't get to see the crap you're spouting.

Too bad the candidate of my choice is NEVER on the ballot - NONE OF THE ABOVE ;)

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Sorry, Bush already gave Cheney control of all weapons of mass destruction 5 months before 9/11.

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Just testing the waters :-) Just don't take me serious.

Dave

We also pioneered the abolition of it as well.

You would have got that anyway :-( It was not just our country that had it

You don't have politicians over there?

Not necessarily

It is nice to know that you are native American, but can you expand on that for an ignorant Brit please?

Dave

I have to agree with you here, we have taken on far too many Americanisms.

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I could go on, but it is getting late at the world's time line marker :-)

Dave

The people Don't Want the job. The only way to get qualified people for most high government positions would be to draft them. Almost by definition, if you WANT the position of power, you probably can't be trusted not to abuse it.

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As active as this thread is, could you take it to an appropriate group - or at least change the subject line. Please?

Doesn't look as though the Dudes and Dudettes from the 9th are gonna lose their title of most overturned circuit any time soon.

So you are a proponent of the Douglas Adams School of Politics, too.

"To summarize: it is a well known fact that those people who most WANT to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to it. Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."

-Doug Adams _The Restaurant at The End of The Universe_

However, keep in mind that the 5th, while it has fewer cases reviewed by the USSC, had 100% of them overturned in a recent year. I think it was five cases in one year.

There's no way anyone can anticipate how this one would come out. I'd put my money on the individual-right interpretation prevailing, but I wouldn't bet heavily.

-- Ed Huntress

Or worked to get a crooked politician out of office? (It was easy after the lawsuit.)

You should hear me tell off telemarketers. ;-)

I had one Heating A/C company call me 35 times in one week, insisting that I needed their annual inspection service on a central air system. (I didn't even have a window unit.) This was before the do not call list.

The last time they called I told them that I had hundreds of retired friends in town, and if they called me one more time that these people would take turns tying up all of the company's phone lines with stupid questions, and calling to have the company send their sales people out to give estimates, with no intention of spending a dime and promised her that it would be damn near impossible for a legitimate customer to get through on their phone lines. She yelled, "That's harassment!" I laughed and told her, 'Now you know how I feel.'

They never called back. Was it something I said?

generating more interest

Amendment at work. Don't

just ignoring this

subject degenerates into a

occupy your synapses?

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to members of a

Where did you get your copy of the Constitution? 'Cause I've read the Second Amendment dozens of times from dozens of sources, and and NONE of the copies I EVER saw limit the right to bear arms to "a well regulated militia." And read my first post above again.

That's fun, but it takes a lot of time. I just say, "Excuse me a minute, I'll be right back." Then I put down the phone and read a book or something. Five minutes later I just hang up the phone.

I was having fun with the young ladies from the NRA the other night, though. I just couldn't say no in the end. d8-)

-- Ed Huntress

They were tying up my business phoneline, and I only had a single line in the shop.

generating more interest

Amendment at work. Don't

by just ignoring this

subject degenerates into a

occupy your synapses?

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or to members of a

CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES:

The Bill of Rights:

I had one collection agency caller (10 calls between 7 AM and 7:45 AM) taken off the case and calls stopped because of the harassment they got when they called my number. Gerry :-)} London, Canada