Of course it makes him of better character. The person who publicly
refuses on grounds of their personal beliefs is much more aligned with
truth than the one who elects to deceive jurors into thinking he holds
similar faith to them.
Sounds to me like you would support a defendant or witness donning a
yarmulke once they learn a majority of the jurors are Jewish. Wearing
religious symbols or professing faith have zero bearing on the moral
compass of the person - just remember the Catholic priest abuses.
A juror who is unable to delineate testimony depending on whether a
witness is of similar faith to himself should not be sitting in the box.
Leon, of the two of us, you are much more likely to get suckered in this
business of life by the guy posing as something he's not than I am by
the guy who is forthright about what he believes.
The terrorist who professes his beliefs and in his view labels my son an
infidel is much more predictable than the priest who cites God and
silently molests my son behind the altar.
Hummm Having been in and retired from Upper management, starting as a stock
boy in the automotive business, I have managed and hired hundreds of people
at various times and dealt with thousands of customers. I have seen lots
of scams and tactics to deceive. I easily rubbed elbows with all of my
employees. Perhaps you have delt with more people on a more successful
You have missed what ever point there was to the discussion. Way back in
the beginning of this thread I made a comment and have been relentlessly
questioned about that comment. I answered those questions and for the life
of me I cannot understand what the big deal is. I have my opinion y'all
Just as likely, the terrorist who professes his beliefs and in his view
labels you son an infidel MAY NOT be more predictable than the priest who
cites God and does not molest your son.
You can make any thing up.
There is an evil influence every where and no one or thing is eximpt from
its temptation or deception. Being able to recognize that deception makes
life less dramatic. It helps to be of good moral character and be able to
reference where those morals originated to recognize deception. And no,
your parents or their parents or their parents were not the origin of the
morals thay you may of may exercise.
I used to laugh--'60s--at the college loan applications that provided
a list of Communist organizations and then required the signer to
affirm that he/she had never belonged to any of these, nor had any
intent to overthrow the government of the U.S. I guess they rooted out
thousands of spies that way. Sure they did. I tried to explain to one
oath-giver that the undercover "intelligence" types would be the first
to sign without a pause, but she couldn't understand that.
I hadn't thought of that......It would indeed increase of the odds of a hung
jury by selecting jurists not committed enough to make decisions. One might
as well anticipate an easier go among those whom moral compass is based upon
"it depends" instead of a right or wrong, of which I'd suspect are often one
and same. Rod
It's not "wishy-washy" to realize that you cannot prove a negative. Or, in
the case of religion and politics, a positive either. That's why they
call it a belief, not a fact.
I suspect most religions arose from the innate reluctance of our species
to say "I don't know".
So you wish a religious litmus test for justice? That is pretty sad.
Your right discouraging murder, rape and robbery is a grave burden for
society to be inflicted with by a few crazed zealots.....Realistically it is
the left that wishes true control , be it mandatory seat belt use, the right
to smoke, what you eat and how much, your home, where and what you can
build, buy or sell or even the trees in your yard. Then the thought police
and the word nazi's, as well as no dissent being allowed (as a politician or
on a college campus just try and doubt global warming).
Incidentally whom are these "too many" anyway and what control have they
inflicted on whom? Rod
Fly-by-Night CC wrote:
Well, this thread's Subject line has
been pretty well hashed out and left
behind. I'm always amazed at how far a
thread can go from its original subject
Just as a reminder, I'd like to point
out that "Leon's Racism" hasn't been
proven - at least not to me, and I
suspect not to very many other than the
person who changed the original subject
line. But it persists.
Naw, I'm not gonna get into this either.
I'm havin too much fun reading it.
LOL.. The darn hook just wont come out. But FIY I am not a racist. ;~) I
simply believe that every one should have to stand in the same line, so to
speak. If a person does not like being treated differently he should not
bring attention to himself by acting or dressing differently.
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:33:11 -0800, Larry Blanchard
Yes, more than once, and if only those laws had passed
buying tires for a bandsaw would be a heck of a lot easier!
(and with that, we are back on topic...)
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