WE are losing it.

;~) Yeah except except not through my son's eyes. I still feel pretty young.

IIRC my grand mother was from a family of 8 or 9 kids. My great grandfather being short and being around cattle was blind in one eye as a result of being eye level with a particular bull's horn.

Clean living!

Good for her Lew, apparently she feels the need to keep those around her line. LOL

YOU were in shcool in 1952 ?????? ;~)

A Government that has the power to suppress lies also has the power to suppress truth. We have faith that on a level playing field, truth will prevail.

I'm not familiar with that acronym.

Am I to understand that in Houston students are not allowed to wear crosses, Jews headscarves and so on? IN Houston are the Jehovah's Witness children required to engage in activities contrary to their faith? Are children not allowed to write about their religious beliefs in their essays?

When it rains, didn't that Bible displayed in front of the courthouse get wet? Sounds impractical to me.

I certainly hope that in Houston as elsewhere, no one is required to take a religious oath prior to testimony, or for any other reason.

Disallowing the use of religious icons to decorate a public building, is hardly tatamount to removing God from the building. Unless my childhood religious education was very much in error, no earthly power can remove God from anywhere. ISTM that if someone who insists on conspicuous displays of their religious icons by their government is a person who is without faith.

"Under God" is not part of the Pledge of Allegiance. It was 'added' by a well-intentioned but ill-considered act of Congress in the 1950's.

If the Congress didn't like the pledge, they should have written their own and not messed with someone else's composition. Can you imagine an act of Congress making a change to one of the ten commandments?

The United States stands for religious freedom and tolerance. Religions, by and large, do not. Hence the conundrum.

It is pretty easy for me to understand that it is wrong for the government to pay homage to a religious notion such as the existence of God, and especially wrong to require that individuals do the same. Yet there are some people who feel that their religion demands that their government do exactly that.

Imagine if the founding fathers had felt as you do.

There is no shortage of Americans whose religious belief prohibits saying the Pledge of Allegiance.

He may well have been. I was in junior high then.

Yes. They are idiots.

Just like there is a segment of society, that whenever one of its members is President, and it hears of word of criticism directed at him, will immediately scream "liberal", or "traitor".

Yep.

Hi Leon,

Perhaps you can help me to understand more about your views.

Are you of the opinion that the 10 commandments should be displayed in the courts? If so, does that not imply "certain groups of people having special privileges?"

Sincere thanks,

See.

"Kenneth" wrote

Perhaps you should first educate us as to how the simple display of the moral imperatives of a society inarguably based on Judeo Christian values/principles conveys "special privileges" onto any group of people?

I know more than one Jew who finds the term "Judeo Christian" to be offensive, regarding it as yet another attempt by Christians to blame Judaism for their own shortcomings.

I will accredit this to you, Swing, when I use this in other convos. Well said.

It seems so obvious to those who have their head on straight, but it is so amazing to discover that so few of them have.

The cartoon side of me wants to say; "WTF??? Is this hard to digest???

It drives me nuts. Around here, I have a friend who operates a serious fleet of school buses. About 70, I figure. His contracts are with a school board which specifically exists for the Roman Catholics. No matter how close a child lives to his/her school, he/she gets a ride. He/she gets funding. From MY tax dollars.

One of my best friends is a principal of a Christian School. He survives on fees paid by the parents who feel their little snowflakes need to be indoctrinated by the same moral standards THEY were raised by. Again, goodie for them, I think that is cool.

When I get MY tax bill (municipal) I get to pick. Catholics or public. My buddy's school (with about 300 students) is NOT on that list.

Here comes the clincher:... He does not WANT any tax money, because the second he does, he is told: No religious artifacts, like bibles, NO prayer in school..yadda, yadda....

We, as Christians, never had an easy go of it. A few, like myself, have become hardened and semi-militant about it. I don't think I am known to mince words, but I assure you, that a meeting of either school-boards is a whole lot more interesting with me in the audience.

Well actually my 2 "OLDER" sisters were too. ;~) I was just yanking Larry's chain. Most of my friends were in school then.

Can you understand that Muslims are not a race, so nothing said about Muslims can be called racist?

In the public schools that my son attended, most of that is pretty much correct. Crossed could be worn under the uniform shirt. Dress codes were enforced.

No, IIRC it was in some kind of protective display case, it may not have even been real but there was a bit news week when certainpeople wanted it removed.

You mean I swear to tell the truth and the whole truth, so Help me God? Is there any court room in the US that does not require that?

A constant reminder of God is no harm to anyone not is it a sign of lack of faith. A conspicous display of their religious icon by anyone, is not a sign of a person who is with out faith. If you believe that, explain that to any priest. It matters not, where the display is.

Thats crap. The Under God IS a part of the pledge, not all the time but has been for a very long time. If you want to argue, just say so.

I "am not" of the opinion that the 10 commandments must be displayed in the courts. I do however believe that the judge, government official or not, should be allowed to conduct his court room and have in his court room what he chooses to have. Personally I prefer that they be displayed but I certainly am against some one wanting them taken down for his day in court. That person can choose to ignore them if he finds them offensive.

Only to a fool. Those are the source of our common law and culture.

"Hate crime" penalties and "affirmative action" programs don't imply, they codify special consideration.

Hold on a second there.

When the POTUS swears on the Bible that he will uphold his office...yadda, yadda...

The I think that everybody on down from him has to do the same.