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My grandmother was born in 1894, I suspect that you grand father was a few years older than my great grand father. I do not recall when he was born but he did live to be 99 and was still alive when my 66 year old sister was a youngen. He was gone before I was born. He was a short fellow, 4'10". One of his sons was 6'8", I'm a hair under 6'
Geez I bet she has some stories to share.
In other words, you can prove that most of them do NOT approve of the violence? Then how come no protests?
God has not been removed from public schools. Teachers and children, at least in my little conservative town in Oregon, may wear symbols of their religious beliefs; two which come to mind immediately are gold crosses and Jewish headscarves. The Jehovah's Witness children are engaged in alternate activities during certain celebrations such as a birthday party in the classroom or holiday activities. Frequently children speak of God in their essays.
There is no edict saying children or teachers may not observe their own religious beliefs. What IS restricted is the teaching staff and administration leading or teaching religion during the public school hours -- if you want your children to learn and be led in their religious practices during the school day, send them to an appropriate religious school.
Leon:
I don't think anyone here believes you are a racist for what you said. You are being baited.
BUT... good sir...
Lemme give you all the ammo you could want to defend your statement
About 6 - 8 months ago PBS had a 12 hour series called "America At the Crossroads". Knowing that the world would not trust anything produced in America as factual, it was a co-production with the BBC.
I watched every episode, every minute. Some episodes more than once.
I would highly suggest anyone that actually had any kind of interest beyond name calling and screaming about civil rights take a long, hard look at this series. There was quite a bit if talk in the series about just that - using our own laws against us.
Then the worst part. They had a couple of high ranking Muslim leaders that headquartered in the Philippines that openly sneered at the US and our system of laws. They despised the US for fact that they could come into our country, preach anarchy, overthrow of the government and could actually get a police escort to protect them in their efforts. He commented on our weak minded stupidity to let them come into the country and do those things out in the open.
That one particular leader made it clear: if we don't have enough pride in or appreciate enough to protect what we have as a nation and as a culture, then we don't deserve to have it.
That made it pretty easy to understand.
Watch or rent the show. It is a lot deeper than your one sentence comment. Until you see it, you won't appreciate the gravity of your comment.
Robert
The bemoaning of no prayer in school always reminds me that I probably prayed more in school than at any other time. Especially before a test or handing in a paper. Like your town, the people in my little conservative town are more tolerant than I've seen elsewhere. A touch of paradise. Maybe except for the snow. Another foot tonight. :-( mahalo, jo4hn
So you are saying you were baited by extremists on tv who made you skeptical of freedom. Well done.
S.
Ahhh... another poster savaged by illiteracy. Read the post over and over... don't give up... it is possible you may eventually understand the post with careful study.
I can't help with your comprehension, but this might help you some:
What he doesn't seem to understand is that a portion of the pride and appreciation of our nation and culture is the freedom of speech he feels he is using to his advantage at our expense. He also seems to lack the ability to see beyond his own actions to those of others. Once he has broadcast his message others are likewise free to rebut and disagree.
Just because he can say it publicly and be protected in that action, he has no further control over the public response.
Well, well, well....LOL
Actually God HAS been removed from public schools, perhaps not the ones that you are familiar with but the big cities are witnessing this.
Teachers and children, at
I wish that were true in Houston. It is no longer acceptable for judges to have the 10 commandments displayed in their court rooms or the Bible displayed in from of the court house. Putting your hand on the Bible and swearing to tell the truth is probably next.
In many schools God has been stricken from the Pledge of Allegiance also.
"Cabal".
Spanish Word of the Day Friday February 22, 2008 Today's Word | Yesterday's Word | Previous Words | Subscribe for Free | Help
cabal, adjective: upright, fine; full, clear
Cabal is a slightly formal word you may come across in newspapers or books. It has two rather different meanings. Applied to people, it means fine and upright:
Era hombre cabal y trabajador como ninguno. He was a fine man and a hard worker.
persona cabal y buen político a fine person and a good politician
When referring to an idea or a picture of something, it means full or clear:
No resulta fácil hacerse una idea cabal de cuál es la verdadera situación. It isn?t easy to get a clear idea of what the real situation is.
If you want to stress how honest somebody is, you use the next phrase:
Es honrado a carta cabal. He?s completely and utterly honest.
This is very interesting to someone from rec.norm.
It also points up the confusion that can occur when language is used imprecisely, as is the case with the OP.
Take for instance two words which sound similar, "microcephalic", and, "microphallic".
Whilst it may be argued that the OP demonstrates symptoms of both, this does not mean that they have a necessary connection, and one may be present without the other, even though by appearances they would seem to be in etymological lock step.
Returning to the point: as would seem to be the case with "Cabal" in the above example, perhaps the OP was using what appeared to be the English word "Race", when in fact it was from another language entirely.
(many thanks to Professor Irwin Corey, who taught me everything worth knowing about language)
Regards,
Tom Watson
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
Considering the true biblical meaning of an oath, I shuddered when I saw Bush take his in '04.
I think 'oath' now means "whateverthehellyoucangetawaywith"
Thank you Robert, My comment was not a shot from the hip response. I have heard and seen the similar interviews and comments as those that you have referred to. The apathy and the twisting of our laws is dragging this country down. Home of the free does not mean every thing is free and you are free to do what you want. We need to start defending our country and quit being limp. We have to demand more from our leaders and make them accountable for their actions. The old saying united we stand divided we fall has never rang so true. I don't mind a mixture of culture, what I do mind are cultures that feel they have a right to change out country to suite their needs. These new people coming to live in our country need to respect the country that they have chosen to live and work in. Unfortunately the attraction, the once all mighty dollar, is what they are after. Many are after freedom but do not realize that freedom comes with a price.
It seems pretty clear that what he has said reflects their attitude and why they attacked us and continue to attack us. If you don't understand their culture, the one that been at war for thousands of years you may never understand that they will slowly take over the world. They are very patient and persistent. They know nothing else. Unfortunately this generation of Americans want immediate gratification and are easily swayed from their goals.
I agree God has been removed from our schools. Not only has God name been removed from the Pledge of Allegiance, put some schools have stopped saying it all together to keep from offending those who are not Americans. My reply to that is they needn't be receiving a free public education then.
But who is the bigot? The Muslim who purports to be on our side, yet dances in the streets when an IED takes out a HumVee and several American soldiers, or the guy like Leon who complains about people going around dressed like bandits in a bad western from the '30s?
Muslims ain't gonna make it. The Chinese will turf 'em out. Talk about long term...they're still bragging about being a civilized society back when 1% of the population lived off the efforts of 99%, so the 1% could grow fingernails that curled into their palms and proved they did no physical work. Oh, wait. That hasn't changed, except for the fingernails.
Well, you probably have a good point there. The Muslims will probably take us down and then the Chinese will take them down.
Or the other way around. Let's not forget all the chances we give the Chinese to poison us, after which our company leaders get to apologize (i.e., Mattel's CEO) to the Chinese for bitching about it.
Good. The phrase "under God" was added by a conservative administration in 1952. Apparently the nation survived quite well for 175 years or so without it. It wasn't there when I went to school :-).
And as far as the pledge itself, it was written in 1892 by the editor of a socialist magazine. Seems Washington didn't think we needed one. Neither did Jefferson. Even Lincoln didn't come up with one in the middle of a war. You know, I agree with them :-).
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