In another thread I mentioned buying a new HE washing machine. They
have to use HE type detergent that is low sudsing. (regular machines
can use it too)
We happened to be in a shopping plaza with a Wal Mart so we stopped in
to see what they had. My wife likes All that is unscented so we found
it and checked the price. The container said it does 96 loads and the
selling price was $17.97 or .187 per load. We were headed to BJ's
Wholesale Club (similar to Costco for those not in their territory) so
I figured we get it there at a similar price.
BJ's had the same All detergent but it comes in a larger container
that says you can do 150 loads. Selling price is $13.99 or .093 per
My wife also takes a couple of generic OTC drugs that were less than
half the Wal Mart generic brands.
You can attempt to brainwash people that you have the lowest prices,
but the proof is in the shopping. You really can live better for less
if you pay attention.
On Sunday, October 6, 2013 11:11:07 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
You can usually beat the Costco, BJ's etc prices on a lot
of stuff with the weekly specials at the supermarket. In
my experience, if you need something like paper towels or
dishwasher tablets and
you have to buy it today, then those shopping clubs usually
have good prices. But if you can schedule you're buying,
then the supermarket will probably have it a lower price,
you just have to wait a week or two.
Ice cream has gone nuts now. HagenDaz, Ben & Jerry's
have gone way up in price. They are around $4.50 here now.
HD is not even a pint anymore, 14 oz. instead. But about
every other week one or the other is on sale at the supermarket
for $2.50 or so. I'd be curious to see the sales figures.
How many they sell at $4.50 vs $2.50. Unless you're dumb
or really don't care about spending money, you would think
people would just buy enough when it's $2.50 to last a couple'
weeks until it's $2.50 again.
I've given up on the cheaper brands with all the fillers and gums.
Breyers used to be a good brand, but no more since they went the cheap
route. I'd rather eat less of the good stuff than a lot of the cheap
I forget the numbers, but I was looking at BJ's chicken breasts the other
day. My choices were packages of Purdue individually wrapped breasts or
BJ's labeled packages of unwrapped breasts for something like 50 cents a
The butcher happened to be nearby so I asked him about the quality of the
BJ's vs. the Purdue. His answer: "All the boxes in the back room say
"Purdue" on them". They buy all their chicken from Purdue and label the
bulk packages with their own label.
I'm sure it's the same way for all of their meats.
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 02:15:01 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
One can't infer that because they came from the same supplier that
they are the same product. That's the fallacious Kenmore vs. <Kenmore
manufacturer> argument. >I'm sure it's the same way for all of their meats.
I'm sure you're right. BJs probably doesn't make cows, either.
On 10/6/2013 10:11 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
...[story of a couple of items at W-M more expensive than found
elsewhere elided solely for brevity]...
I rarely go into the W-M but in a small town w/ none of the competitors
around sometimes they are just the only alternative, unfortunately, any
more--they have done the typical thing of driving out almost all the
traditional storefronts since they arrived 30 yr ago or so.
Anyway, I had need for a few pavers to fill in an area in the barn
alleyway at ends where I had used some on-hand leftover blocks and old
silo staves, etc., and happened to be at the W-M for one of those cases
of they were the only one in town who has another item any more. It was
end of spring season so walked by the garden area to see if were
clearing out the pavers -- no, weren't yet but noticed for the same
identical ones from the same manufacturer their price was almost 2X that
of the Ace Hardware down the street -- $1.50 or so/ea as opposed to ~80
cents. On top of which Ace let me just have the broken in the pile to
clean 'em out which worked just fine for my purpose since had to cut 'em
to fit in the holes, anyway...
All to simply confirm that's nothing at all new or surprising nor
different. W-M has always (well at least since Sam's been gone lo!
these many years and even often before then) had prices that aren't
necessarily lower than some others.
Advertising can and does do wonders to create impressions in
merchandising as well as in all other areas of propagandizing...tell a
lie often enough and it becomes accepted.
I'm not sure about heavy items such as detergent, but many items like
generic OTC drugs can be purchased at the lowest price by shopping online.
I have a few items that I always get online. I start at Amazon and then
look in the right hand column where other vendors are shown. You can often
find a cheaper price than the one offered in the "main window" at Amazon.
Sometimes I'll buy multiple bottles since the shipping is often the same or
very close to just a single bottle. That cuts way down on the per pill
price. Even with shipping, many items are cheaper online than from any
brick and mortar store, even the clubs.
I would not trust on-line drugs unless from a reputable pharmacy.
With old employer's drug plan, I quit it. Cost $76 for warfarin before
Medicare deductible was met and $14 thereafter. Walmart was $10.
On Sunday, October 6, 2013 11:11:07 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I wonder if you could just use less of an ordinary detergent?
Actually, much of the time clothes come just as clean with no detergent, and I suspect this would be even more true with the HE machines. It's the mechanical action that does the cleaning. (google is your friend)
The presence or absences of suds is no indication of the cleaning properties of
the detergent. Suds were pushed as a marketing device back in the 50s and 60s
(primarily by Tide) and managed to convince consumers that they were connected
to the cleaning properties of the detergent.
"HE" detergents have been around for decades - they just used to be referred to
a low sudsing.
Not everything you read on Google is true. Most clothing contains a significant
amount of residual detergent from previous washings. While you may think you are
washing is plain water, the fact is that residual detergent is still doing it's
thing. Hence the fad some time ago of "Laundry Balls".
Consumers have a difficult time judging the effectiveness of detergent over the
short term. One detergent manufacturer discovered that increasing the amount of
perfume made some consumers think the detergent was stronger. Even absent that -
rinsing may remove some surface dirt, but blood, sweat and ground in dirt need a
quality detergent to remove.
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