I participate in about 10 newsgroups. For most of this year, the wreck
has been the only one with any traffic. And even it has gone from almost
100 posts a day down to 15 or 20.
The woodworking content has gotten even less. Most of the messages are
tea party members reinforcing each others paranoia.
To all of you who have provided good woodworking advice in the past,
thank you. I've even enjoyed, and taken part in, some of the more
civilized political discussions. Thanks for those as well.
But I think it's time to bite the bullet and look for a different online
woodworking community. I'll probably start at Yahoo groups since I
already am a member of several groups there. But if anyone has some
other woodworking group they like, I'm open to suggestions.
This message was for rec.woodworking - if it appears in homeownershub
they ripped it off.
I have been disappointed too that the "wood content" has been lean
around here this week. I guess it comes in streaks.
I occasionally visit the sites sawmillcreek.org and lumberjocks.com.
The traffic is Huge at those sites though. When someone shares a project
at lumberjock there is very rarely ever any criticism. It's mostly
"Nice job", "Atta-boy" kinda stuff. I'm not interested in twittering my
way to woodworking!
Good luck and don't wander too far!
I find this group is like a group of people with common interest meeting
for breakfast. Someday the only topic that they will consider is
someone's new project or tool, or a problem that someone is having with
their current project. Other days the world comes in and political
things get discussed. Some days you agree with the discussions and some
days you want to figuratively kill the next person who opens his mouth.
HOWEVER, I enjoy the information, the banter, and the political
discussions. As for me, I will continue to meet with all of you for
Very well said !. Thanks.
I generally dislike the off-topic political stuff -
- it serves no use, as my Grandpa would say -
- I find that it's easy to ignore - real easy.
but I enjoy much of the off-topic humour .. thx !
I'll miss this newsgroup, once it's gone.
Breakfast is on me - Wellesley Ontario
- at Schmidtsville - don't look for a website ..
I feel the same way about the web based forums. There was a comment
about why the Newsgroups were disappearing, regulatory may be part of
the problem, but I think the main reason is that the provider can not
make any money from a newsgroup. While on most web forum pages, over
half the page is taken up with fixed advertising and popup advertising.
It is a matter of economics for the provider.
My 2 cents: I appreciate the good discussions and the varied points of view
on how to get from here to there in the shop. I always find the advice --
even when one writer contradicts another -- to be helpful. I also visit sa
wmill creek and lumber jocks and have picked up a couple of nicely priced t
ools from SMC classies. This is a great little community and I would miss
it if it disappears.
Larry, it's getting less and less as the years roll on. I first came here before
2001, when I started woodworking. It gives me lot pleasure all these years. I
mostly lurk to find out how to....... and where to find......? Once in a while I
add my two cents. I missed many of the old timers. Cheers
It's been an unfortunate, steady deterioration of this group. At one time w
e had a full array of accomplished woodworkers who were happy to share expe
rtise and information.
To me, the abundance of off-topic posts is a part of the present situation.
I guess there's no way to eliminate political bullshit sessions and those
lame attempts at humor. Well, sadly, I guess nothing lasts forever, and the
prime saving grace is Rob's weekly quiz.
When one begins a new endeavour, there are always lots of "how to" thoughts
which lead to questions. Woodworking is no exception but after a relatively
short time, the confusion sorts itself out...make a rough board smooth,
square it up, cut/shape to size, hook it together with other pieces, apply a
finish. That's pretty much it and at that point, the "how to" thoughts
So what's left? Well, the merits of different tools and brands of tools,
ditto for finishes. Plus various OT stuff. What is needed is more people -
newbies or not - asking questions. To that end, see my soon-to-be post,
"Why do lap joints work?" :)
I'd also add the merits of new tools, what works what doesn't. I
didn't hear about the Domino until a year or two after it came on the
market. I'd have loved to see some of the original comments from
professional users after they experienced it for the first time.
As to the need for newbies, it's getting harder to find them for
woodworking. When I was in high school a little over forty years ago,
even then they were phasing out woodshop and autoshop. Nowadays, the
first exposure and interest is computers and new technology. Very
little is left for beginning woodworkers to get introduced to the
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