Moderated Group?

Hi

Has anyone though of starting a UK DIY moderated group?

I run several Yahoo Groups in my other 'life' as a magician and the flame wars aren't anything like the Dr Drivel ones we get here.

Obviously the magicians groups are restricted membership for security - we don't want people knowing how stuff is done, but its dead easy for a moderator (or moderators) to stamp out silly flame wars that just waste space and make threads unreadable. or to ban the members that start them.

The only public domain magicians group 'alt.magic' has literally died due to one troll who just snipes at everyone.

Any thoughts?

Dave

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david lang
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So you have failed as a magician to make these people disappear?

-- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

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The3rd Earl Of Derby

Yahoo Groups demands registration with Yahoo and using their shitey web interface. Yahoo Groups are useless for off-line reading, and aren't publically archived. I'm not sure what the copyright implications of using Yahoo Groups are - do they get ownership of posts?

Moderated newsgroups are possible - uk.legal.moderated has recently been created. They require the use of a moderation bot running on a server somewhere, and of course they require a process for appointing moderators.

uklm does moderate on content (some moderated newsgroups only moderate to remove spam, personals and non-plain-text) and in a moderated-on-content group someone has to decide what is and isn't acceptable. One issue on uklm is whether moderators (who exercise editorial control) might be liable for defamation if they pass a post subsequently held to be defamatory.

The problem with Drivel is that most of his posts (apart from the 'snip drivel' ones) are "on topic" for the group, even if useless or worse than useless. I think peer review is better than, effectively, censorship.

The easiest way is either ignore Drivel completely (killfile him in your newsreader) or just skip past threads that turn into name-calling.

If you could use your professional talents to turn Drivel into a white rabbit or saw him in half or something, I wouldn't deny it would be something of a public service.

Owain

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Owain

Moderated groups suffer from delay in the posts appearing when a mod isn't around and a lot of spontaneity is lost.

Also the particular prejudices of the mod reflect the content of the group. They tend to become pro chat groups and discourage questions.

The "regulars" in here tend to be big and ugly and can see off any trouble.

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EricP

changing the setup of this group gets suggested on a regular basis. But uk.d-i-y works very well. We're a group of diyers and builders, we seem to fend them off well enough. Just go look at some of the threads.

Anyway, fools have as much right to use this place as anyone else. Maybe we stop them killing someone, when they occasionally listen.

1 or 2 are best plonked, or add something to the old dr. Evil drivel thread.

NT

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meow2222

I would go along with that as it would get rid of Plowman, Matt (Lord Hall), Tomlinson, Jerry and the rest of the lunatics.

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Doctor Drivel

I've heard all the jokes thanks :-)

Dave

Reply to
david lang

Errrm .... that would only leave you & me......

Dave

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david lang

My groups are usually un moderated unless a flame war starts, in which case the protaganists are moderated until it dies down.

Agreed that is true of some groups, hopefully not any of mine.

I deny here & now that anyone is big or ugly - I didn't say it!

Dave

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david lang

It is something that crops up every so often, as does splitting the group into several speciality areas. Both usually generate a number of posts but eventually fail because the regular posters do not wish to have to monitor more than one group to offer advice.

Colin Bignell

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nightjar

I'm sure you'd find one if you tried.

But Yahoo groups are essentially mail based. The beauty of this one is anyone can post here - and that's what gets some of the most interesting discussions going.

That's fine for a 'boys' club.

Several have tried here and failed. It only really happens on low traffic groups.

If the 'flames' truly upset you simply killfile the participants and or thread.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

Yes, and there's nothing stopping you from doing so. Personally, I'll be staying here. I'm not interested in news articles appearing as emails or via web pages.

Reply to
Andrew Gabriel

That's good news, John. It's easy to set one up. So do it. I'd suggest you call it DIY Poetry. That should get the 'audience' you deserve.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

Is he still here? The filters in my newsreader must be working well then :-)

Reply to
Rob Morley

It is.

Reply to
Doctor Drivel

On or around Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:01:36 +0100, Rob Morley mused:

Mine work too, problem is, people still reply to him.

Reply to
Lurch

Very amusing Dribble. I'm not Lord Hall and the only lunatic around here is you. True but sad.

Reply to
Matt

Agreed.

I don't see the connection between this statement and that about moderation.

Reply to
Bob Eager

Well lets ALL agree to ignore him (and all his aliases)

Reply to
Matt

Because newsgroups by nature aren't modulated? Posts go straight to the servers and are accessible by everyone.

Drivel's 'snip rubbish' things are an attempt to censor them for those reading from archives like Google, etc.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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