Usenet by definition is essentially unmoderated. Yes, there are moderated
groups, but it's trivial to bypass the moderation. Unfortunately, Usenet portals
like HH give the impression that Usenet is a bulllitin board that can be
That said, I've had a great deal of success just setting up an Agent filter to
skip any post that is crossposted to more than 2 groups.
On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 11:06:52 AM UTC-4, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
I'm certainly not advocating for a moderated group, but I have to disagree
with your assertion that a moderator would filter posts based on his/her
"interests". Some might, but not all. I sure wouldn't.
I moderate a forum related to MS Office questions, with rights to
delete/edit individual posts or delete entire threads. The only posts
that ever get deleted are posts from spammers who try to sell software
or services as solutions to a posted question.
There are often posts that I have no interest in or are not appropriate
for that forum. My "interest" has no bearing on whether I do anything
with the post although I will move a post to an appropriate forum on
the same site, mainly to make sure it receives the proper attention. e.g.
if a network related question gets asked in an Excel forum, I'll move it
to where the network experts hang out. It's not because I'm not interested
in network related questions, it's because I want the question to be
Luckily, in all the years I have been a member and/or moderator of that
forum, we have never had to deal with trolls, off-topic discussions,
name-calling, bigotry or any of the issues that we see in a.h.r and
many other usenet groups. Maybe it's just that trolls don't think they'll
get much traction in a moderated forum, but it doesn't even appear that
they try, at least not in the forums that I participate in.
I should add that we don't review posts prior to allowing them to be seen.
All edits/moves/deletions are done after the fact. I like it that way
because I feel that it adds an extra layer of "protection" to the poster.
Deleting an existing post is very different than having the power to decide
if it even ends up on the forum. Our method would not work very well in a
distributed environment like usenet.
Not to the best of my knowledge. Maybe. No, I don't think so.
An actual newsreader with good filtering capabilities would help, and
someone might be willing to give you good filtering suggestions to
populate the filter with.
|I there a moderated version of this group? Or, has anyone put together a
script monkey to prune the noise? Does google have a filter? (Please add
trump,clinton,obama,... and so on.) Thanks in advance.
Not on usenet. There are various commerical
forums, for painters, for contractors, etc. The
problem with those is that you have to sign up
and give them personal info.
The first step would be to stop using Google
Groups webpage format and get a real newsreader.
Then you can filter specific posters and may be able
to filter some topics. You'll also be able to see posts
in a "treeview" display, which makes them much
easier to read than a webpage display. Thunderbird
is a popular program. There are others specifically for
newsgroups. I've seen Mesnews recommended, but
never tried it.
Another important thing is not to respond to
people prattling. It's of limited help to filter people
if someone more cohereht answers them.
In this group I filter a number of people. It's the
first time I've ever filtered anyone, but this group
is filled with a lot of lonely people who want to
chat. Some are nasty. Some are just want to be
heard and will say any old thing. Some are old and
only half-present. Some are resentful know-it-alls
who do know something, but end up not being helpful
because they really only care about being right.
Winning at the expense of the facts. Some ignore
common courtesy but also sometimes say something
relevant. You just have to choose for yourself who
you think is worth hearing.
I was just away for a few days, earlier this week. I
came back to find 150+ new posts. That's with my
filters in place. There were probably more like 200 posts.
It's getting steadily worse.
After a quick scan for idiot topics and "Re:" used in
original posts (which are noise from outside, private
sites) I think there were maybe 2-3 on-topic posts left
-- the one about wiring a dishwasher/disposal and the
one about repairing the door. The one about the door
was posting an image on flickr, which I can't see, so
I ignored it. It was a somewhat silly post, anyway, about
estimating a job based on a photo! I'm guessing that
poster was really second-guessing a contractor who
he was hiring to fix his door. (Hopefully he's not trying
to fix someone else's door. :)
There's not much you can do if people have no
consideration for others. I increasingly consider just
dropping this group. I stay only because I'm a
contractor. I like to be of help when I can, to people
who don't know where to find info. And occasionally
someone really needs help or advice about something
related to home repair.
This is by far the worst group I've been in for childish
and inconsiderate behavior. I was once in a webmasters
group that I left because one nasty regular had created
a fiefdom for himself and about half of the regulars allowed
him to be the boss. It prevented useful discussion. I also
avoid Linux groups. They're filled with smug, unsocialized
geeks. But I frequent several tech, programming, Windows
groups that are usually pretty good. On the bright side,
these forums are completely open to anyone. It's impressive
that they work at all, considering all the people who
are, so to speak, running around without a diaper, and
who *could* be running around here. :)
I filter everyone that only posts off topic, even those I may agree
with. One took offense when I told him and called it censorship and
that was one I agreed with. Everyone has freedom of speech and I have
freedom of listening or not listening.
"Dean Hoffman" wrote:
| No one has suggested using Thunderbird yet for some reason.
I did. There are also more dedicated newsreader
programs. But people using Google Groups first need
to learn what Usenet is and how groups work, so
that they can research a newsreader and set it up.
On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 8:34:24 PM UTC-4, Mayayana wrote:
Not *all* people using Google Groups need to learn about usenet. Some of us have been
participating in usenet groups for decades, long before there was even a Google to Group.
We know about newsreaders and we know how to set them up.
We also have valid reasons for using Google Groups.
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote
| Yes, it is at www.homeownershub.com Nice people there. I think Chris
| was the main moderator.
?? That's the site that keeps dumping posts here.
It appears to me that they're trying to market
their site by spamming newsgroups.
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