The PURPOSE of alt.home.repair

Yeah, wander in here and talk to people that have been around here literally for years how they should change their ways to suit you. THAT's not gonna happen. Especially to the pussy that won't sign his or her own name.

If you don't like it here get the hell out. I used a slightly kinder four letter word because you haven't REALLY pissed me off... yet.

But you're workin' on it.

I've been "around here literally for years", actually "literally for decades".

I think you'd agree that the percentage of on-topic vs. off-topic threads has seen a major reversal, especially most recently. I actually remember a time when the off-topic stuff was few and far between the home repair posts and not vice-versa like it is now.

I was extremely liberal in counting off-topic discussions in a.h.r, even allowing automotive repair, cell phone backup programs, etc. to be considered

You people who have been "around here literally for years": Think back, is that what a.h.r looked like back in 80's and 90's? Not to my recollection.

The people who've been around here for decades are now getting up there agewise. What we're seeing is the typical behavior of cranky old farts who won't shut up and won't change the subject.

Tl;dr: "Grandpa's yelling again."

Exactly.

When I think back our country isn't what it was 30 or 40 years ago either. That is truly a shame. This group, not so much.

My democracy is broken, does anyone have any handy tips for me to repair or replace it - it an old model from the late 1700's. TIA

Okay, I get it, I'll stop.

I'm sure you can provide a link to a charter that supports your claims. I'll wait

You were way too kind.

Kurt V. Ullman posted for all of us...

I resemble that remark. I have never denied it but my opinion is as valid as yours.

How old is "up there agewise"? I think I might be one of them.

Moe DeLoughan posted for all of us...

That is correct, but we shared our knowledge freely. Now posters need a porthole to go through. They want information handed on a silver platter to them without doing any kind of basic research; which is MUCH easier today. We had to crawl through and around the web to find answers which were usually hosted at educational institutions at blazing speeds. If one needed drivers, instructions you had to find a site that would host them. Present posters don't even bother to look at the item packaging for the site. How many times has "How do I mount an electrical outlet; ground up or down?" "I only have two wires how do I get a ground?" on and on... I could do without the politics and other distractions. Sometimes it's the only thread worth following. I only come here when able usually not every day. I will then try to read the original post and then the voluminous off-topic replies. If I do reply then I am criticized for not keeping up. Users used to be lucky if the hosts allowed six simultaneous connections. Busy signals and failed connections were common.

Aw shucks, I was just asking for the facts, sir. Something these whiney bastids can never do, as you have documented : ) I can still hear the crickets

| It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss | everything EXCEPT home repair topics. |

Thank you for your efforts, but as you can see from the responses, there's little civility or even common sense to be found. And it's getting worse. Old men, acting like children who need a diaper. But there's no one in charge and they seem to have not been raised with the basic ideas of courtesy and consideration for others. So it's a case of pearls before swine.

I regularly consider just dropping this group altogether. As it is I'm blocking a number of regular posters. (Not even "trolls". Regulars!) Yet I still see more nonsense than discussion. I stick around only because I might be able to offer useful help to the occasional person who happens by with a real question.

I gave up. Have you found a good alternative?

...and gals.

That is an apt description of our idiot-in-chief.

You're breaking my heart.

Don't flatter yourself.

Dittos