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Actually, I support the ban against chicken raising, but for a different reason. My first reason is personal.

Because of an infestation of pigeons on all balconies in my apartment building, I've developed a hatred for birds of all types. The damn birds made the balconies literally unusable. About ten years ago, the building management netted the balconies to fix the bird problem, but that didn't alleviate my hatred much.

My second reason is practical. I don't know about population attitudes in Texas, but too many people are irresponsible here as far as I'm concerned. Assuming chicken raising was permitted, I'd expect loose chickens and other sorts of farm animals to be scavenging on the streets within a few years. People would flock to chicken raising with makeshift, ineffective cages and then dump the chickens on the street when they decided they were tired with it.

No thanks. Cities are not suitable habitats for farm animals of any type.

Appreciate your feelings, and support your rights to have, hold and express them, just do us all down here a favor and PLEASE don't move to Texas! ;)

And may times never get so troubled as to cause you to rue your words ...

That might be a problem. I *was* thinking how nice it would be to move down to Texas, midway between you and Leon's place.

You could build my house, Leon could build the interior cabinetry. And, I could ambush the two of you for some tool every morning the two of you meet to exchange borrowed tools.

:)

Unfortunately, my health problems force me to stay within easy reach of a large metropolitan hospital. If I was healthier, I might well be living in or near some rural community and I'd like it. But, it's just not to be.

LOL ... sounds like a good plan to me! :)

Oh, OK. But, still, it's amazing that it doesn't stick even during a few minute rest on the fresh finish.

-- You never hear anyone say, 'Yeah, but it's a dry cold.' -- Charles A. Budreau

That's not uncommon happenstance among an aging population down here (not to infer you're remotely in that category). Most of my acquaintances are realizing that their plans to retire into a country life would most likely be short lived for health reasons, and have therefore decided to stay put to be close to medical facilities ... an unanticipated side effect, along with the economy, has been a marked increase in remodeling existing homes for that very eventuality.

Well, duh. But we were talking about it, so hey. :-)

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:05:29 -0400, "Mike Marlow"

Worrying about it? No, I have more important things to worry about. I just happen to be opinionated about certain topics on occasion.

By the same token, dust is really not an issue either.

You should give gel stains and varnishes a try. Old Masters is a pretty good brand, read and follow the directions on the can.

Or basically, apply how ever you want to do so and wipe off "immediately". 10 or so minutes later wipe again with a fresh clean cloth. Let dry 4~8 hours and repeat 2 or more times.

OK, now it sounds more realistic. I use Waterlox, also a wiping varnish, but an oil-based liquid, not a gel. It could be used exactly the way you described the _second_ time. Your first post indicated that it was an apply/wipeoff one-time finish. Here you describe it better.

And if I ever find something Waterlox doesn't work well on, I may give Old Masters a try, but I'm not too keen on poly. Wiping varnishes have the advantage that they -don't- feel plasticky, as brushed varnishes do when they contain poly.

I tried Behlen's Rock Hard Tabletop varnish on my current dining set, and it was OK, but I really prefer a less-glossy finish on most everything. The 'hand' Waterlox gives is better, too. As an old girlfriend described it, "It's like a good condom. You can still feel the sensuous presence of the wood underneath."

-- You never hear anyone say, 'Yeah, but it's a dry cold.' -- Charles A. Budreau

All gel's" those that I have seen" are all satin finish, and yes you want to touch the finish. Swingman and Nailshooter both have enjoyed, how shall I put this, touching the wood. LOL

Some are glossier than others, and some mfgr ratings of "satin" are more like a "semi-gloss" to me. YMMV. I use Waterlox Original in Satin. Most of the wipe-ons will go more glossy with more coats, despite any "satin" reference.

"Fondling the wood" is more evocative.

-- You never hear anyone say, 'Yeah, but it's a dry cold.' -- Charles A. Budreau

"Because of an infestation of pigeons on all balconies in my apartment building, I've developed a hatred for birds of all types. The damn birds made the balconies literally unusable.

-- Jim in NC

waking up everyone within earshot. Escaped hens roaming the streets, feathers blowing everywhere. Bird poop is usually toxic so there may be repercussions there.

Nope, I think it's a bad idea, at least in an urban environment.

You missed the operative word ... "hens". Roosters are never allowed in urban settings.

Hens "cluck" softly, they don't "crow", ND they don't roam as a rule because they must be vigorously protected, by escape proof measures,

Those pigeons really got to you, eh?

You've fallen into the same trap/mindset you accused Marlow of the other night with regard to the FOG forum ... IOW, you have no real understanding of the issues and reality of the situations.

Hens cluck softly unless disturbed, when they let out some pretty loud noises. Roosters are 100x worse, but hens are damned loud and I wouldn't want any next door to me. Cats, dogs, raccoons, snakes, and stray people can all make chickens go apeshit, from my experience. Come out the back door and let the screen door slam and you have chickens heading for the trees. (not that they get there, with the pinioned wings and all...)

-- The problem with borrowing money from China is that thirty minutes later, you feel broke again. --Steve Bridges as Obama

You have no idea. I've been scarred for life from the damned flying diapers.

You're partially right, but in the past, I have visited the occasional farm. Same conditions as the pigeons on my balcony. Bird poop and feather fluff everywhere.

In any event, it's people I don't trust to be responsible if it came down to hen ownership. *There*, I do have an understanding and experience.