Rethinking "Made in China"

When a country taxes and regulates business to death, what happens? When labor unions become too big for their britches and so corrupt that their behavior holds businesses hostage to their demands, the business owners vote with their feet and go someplace else.

TDD

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The Daring Dufas
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:39:07 -0800, David Nebenzahl wrote: I have a few tools that were made in China that I feel are very high quality.. Two jet lathes and several small power tools.. My feeling is that it's not WHERE they are made, it's the quality control of the company that the stuff is made for..

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mac davis

I'm the original owner of my 1973 Fiat 124 Spyder. It was my only car until recently. It has been driven down steam beds in Mexico, over mountains, across deserts, etc. It still runs and looks great. Biggest problem I've had with it is "mechanics" screwing up stuff; surprising since it is so mechanically simple but they manage.

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dadiOH

The Medalist was "pro" too. ___________

You forgot Asahi. The Pentax was/is under rated. ____________

Thank heavens they expired :)

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dadiOH

Many years ago I had a Fiat 124 Spyder. I called it the Fiat 124 Lemon. I did buy it used so perhaps it was just maintained terribly, but almost every other week something went wrong. The alternator died, the string operating the clutch broke, the transmission developed problems, and just endless crap.

I guess it just depends on when it got put together.

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dgk

Who? Educated where?

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norminn

Considering that they were getting a better offer than staying in Canada, the numbers may not be so suprising. What may be suprising is the number of Canadian sientists that Canada could not hold on to.

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Leon

Reefer? ;~)

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Leon

Yes, I'm sure it's not good... but then for 7 months of the year up here whatever losses it has are still going into the house as useful heat anyway (and I don't run aircon in summer, so it's not like I'm using more power to combat the inefficiency then either).

I did try estimating how much power it was using once (based on monthly bills and the other stuff that we have running), and it wasn't that bad at all; in terms of the difference in running costs between it and a new fridge, I figured that a new replacement would have to run for at least ten years before it paid for itself. Having seen the way most things are engineered to a price these days, a decade might be asking a little much :(

cheers

Jules

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Jules

On the bright side, lawyers fly too.

The old V-tail is a good airplane but you can't overcome perception so the went conventional.

The truth is, if anyone dies in an airplane, the manufacturer WILL BE SUED. Back in the late 80's I was told that the first $80K of any aircraft product price was built-in litigation expense. If you take off with a near empty gas tank, no oil, drunk as a skunk and fly into a box canyon; they still come after the manufacturer. We usually win those, but spent millions keeping up with it. Even military products collected lawyers.

RonB

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RonB

Consider this, and my comparison is not an even one but you may want to look at other appliances also.

I have been keeping records on a spread sheet of my electricity usage and cost in the same house for the last 21 years. I replaced the original central AC & heating in 1995, it was 14 years old. I am still using that replacement central AC & heating system 15 years later. From 1988 till 2003 my average monthly usage has been from 1214 Kwh to 1456 Kwh. The graph goes up and down, up and down.

Beginning in 2004 my average usage has almost gone flat. 1347 in 2004,

1348 in 2005, 1335 in 2006, 1334 in 2007, 1184 in 2008. and so far in 2009 with one month to go 1297. The big drop in 2008 was because we lost electricity for 11 days because of Hurricane Ike.

I replaced my electric water heater early in 2004. Looking at the efficiency label on the old water heater and comparing to the new $300 water heater installed by me, I determined that it would pay for itself in less than 2 years. I have saved about 1300 Kwh per year since. Electricity has cost me approximately 13 cents per Kwh on average. I have been saving about $169 per year since 2003 after replacing the water heater. Including the cost of the new water heater I have saved $700 in electricity over the last

6 years.
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Leon

I used to have an X1/9. Lovely little car, only repair I ever needed to make on it other than routine maintenance was the thermostat. I'd likely still be driving it if some asshole hadn't stolen it. Not at all like my one Toyota, that had a single scheduled maintenance item--at 10,000 miles replace engine.

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J. Clarke

Navy talk for "refrigerator".

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J. Clarke

Yes, the Italians make Ferraris and $80K shotguns, etc. They also make Fiats. You want the real survivability lowdown on Fiat. I'm from sunny CA where cars NEVER RUST!. If it's worth a damn, it will last forever. In the early 70s, after I got out of the service, CA roads were lousy with Fiats 850s and 124s. It was a craze and ppl bought them by the ship load. They were as common as VW bugs. Thirty years later, they are rarer than an honest politician. In fact, in the last 5 yrs I spent commuting 70 miles a day on SFBA freeways, I was stunned to see a single running 850 Spyder, it having been so long since seeing one, I'd actually forgotten they'd ever existed. Pre-70 Borgwards are more common. If Fiat reliability is any indication of European quality engineering, Chrysler is screwed!

nb

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notbob

Well, duh! That was pretty much my point.

nb

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notbob

But, is paying $800 for a more efficient ....read energy conserving, not colder.... gonna save you any money? Not likely before it dies and you need to spend another $800 another new one.

nb

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notbob

Heh heh.... and I doubt there were too many folks named Homer Hickam defecting to the US from the Nazi rocket program.

nb

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notbob

....as opposed to baseless dogma spewed by narrow minded twits who refuse to see beyond personal prejudices.

nb

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notbob

Nice self description there, nutbob ... well done!

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Swingman

Parachutes the same. Somebody jumped over the Pacific, drunk as a skunk, had a good chute, and at 200 feet hit the quick-release that is intended to allow one to quickly detach a fouled canopy so that the reserve can be used. The lawyers contended that the chute should have had a label warning about use while intoxicated.

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J. Clarke

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