I measured the distance from the fence to the blade for OK cuts when I had
a Craftsman TS and stock fence but stoped doing that when I added a Jet
Exacta fence. My new, 11 years ago, cabinet saw has the larger version of
I use premium quality blades and have them checked for flat every time I
have them resharpened.
A problem that can occour with any method of measuring is that if a blade
becomes "non-flat" measuring fromt the fence tot a tooth on the blade will
yield inconsistant results. This will throw off the accuracy of the built
in system on the Biese fence also. While the fence may be accurate at a
given point a slightly warped blade that throw all of that out the window.
Measuring from the blade to the fence will not improve that situation.
Think kerf blades seem to exagerate the problem as they are less likely to
I on occasion I will make a rip cut, measure the result, and verify the
cursor setting on the fence.
"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote
If it is moving around that easy, there is something wrong. Fix it, and you
will be rewarded with accurate cuts, in half the time.
Really, if there is a problem with the fence, it can be fixed, even if you
have to re-engineer the way it is attached.
If it's that untrustworthy something's wrong. The factory fence on my
500 buck Ridgid is accurate and repeatable to the limit of my ability to
read the markings. Took me a while to learn to trust it though.
If the saw gets moved around on the back of a truck, the way contractor
saws are expected to be used, then the fence should be adjusted every
time the saw is set up at a new job site, which should take under a
minute. Things carried on a truck do get knocked.
If the "heavy casting" only connects at the front and doesn't continue to the
back, there is room for error. Beisemeyer is one piece so there is nothing to
get whacked out, other then the pair adjustment set screws. They're easily
adjusted and really don't take much abuse anyway.
On 8/9/2010 10:53 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You're speaking about that which you know not. My Unisaw has a Unifence and it
doesn't get any more "whacked out" than a Biesemeyer. And yes, I've used a
Biesemeyer (which you misspelled, btw) many times; my father and my buddy both
Free bad advice available here.
To reply, eat the taco.
On 08/09/2010 11:26 PM, email@example.com wrote:
From what I can see, you were _telling_ us, not asking, about the stability of
Unifence, and without any real first-hand knowledge. That makes _me_ the dummy?
Well it certainly depends on the application as to what fence is a better
choice. If I'm
running a production cabinet shop with husky galoots slamming sheet goods
machine all day long, then I'm not gonna give 'em a Unifence; it's designed for
accuracy, not abuse. I'm not gonna take my Ford F350 Power Stroke Diesel on a
trip through the Texas Hill Country, and I'm not gonna take my Porsche to lumber
pick up roofing material.
And I'm sorry you got your boxers in a bunch.
"Our beer goes through thousands of quality Czechs every day."
(From a Shiner Bock billboard I saw in Austin some years ago)
If you're convinced that a Biesemeyer fence is superior to a Unifence then
you should stick with a Biesemeyer. It doesn't appear that any amount of
anecdotal evidence is going to persuade you against confirmational bias.
In all likelihood the performance of either fence is so close that, in the
end, it comes down to personal preference.
Look. When I bought my Unisaur I researched both systems, including
querying this group. Not having used a Unifence or ever having had
access to same, my OPINIONS are based on this research. So, yes,
having done homework and having _made_ the choice, I was obviously
convinced that the Biesemeyer was the better fence. If others have
different OPINIONS, I'm certainly interested in discussing the fine
points (and would love to try the Unifence) but I highly doubt I'll
ever change fences. I think even I can find a better use for the
Now, is it time to unwedge? Did I spell "Biesemeyer" right?
I have used the Uni and The Bies for decades, both at the same shop. I
have screwed around with many fences at other shops, always asking why
those guys liked what they liked. So my personal preference? Both the
Uni and the Bies are toys. Good toys, but toys. The SCM and Altendorf
guys have it down: Great big tube or channel and a humongous casting
with a T configuration, no clamping at the back, ever.
Wow, how many heads did that (Vega) comment just wizz over? :-))
It is only the people that had one or knew someone that had one that really,
But, if you were good on oil changes and never ever let it overheat, it
wasn't as bad as everyone thinks. Problem is, how many people keep up with
both of the two conditions I stated? Not many, huh?
How about a Luv pickup? Believe it or not, there is one that lives around
here as an every day driver. Not too bad, for that fellow, I guess!
Wow, here I stand all red-faced and stuff! I have to admit that I go for
the main stream stuff, and not the fine woodworker high line stuff. It is
an unfortunate condition of buying for a high school in a poor rural area of
NC with _very_ limited funds to spend on equipment and supplies. I had not
heard of that company and therefore though that you were making a funny!
Now, you're making a funny, right? I guess I need to ask and find out for
sure, from now on! ;-)
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