Agreed. I graduated in 1970 near the bottom of my class. About 3 years
back I took a smattering of courses and, with rare exception, simply
blew away the fresh HS graduates.
ALL of what I knew had either been retained from HS or developed 'in the
wild' since. Where else could it have come from?
I averaged 3.5 or so while working full time in a factory, attending
school full time and being both a minister and a husband.
Youngest daughter is currently in college so, along with having to foot the
bill, I get a first hand look at the illiteracy exhibited by many of her
"professors". (She has one recorded on tape apologizing to the class for
being late with the remark: "I had done left my keys at home...") ...
thankfully not an English professor, but the sad thing is I wouldn't have
From an age based perspective the slide in the past 30 years is astounding.
The US education system is rotting from the greed and arrogance of the
educrats, a teaching staff poorly educated themselves, and the mirror image
spawn of irresponsible parents they practice on.
... and further illustrated by the frequent asininities of one or two of the
supposed college level "educators" who post here.
Here where I stand by this elephant my take is that the schools
(Charlotte/Mecklenburg County NC) have severe discipline problems resulting
in distractions to the students, teachers, and efficient use of all
resources. You can apply your perspective of 30+ years ago versus presently
as to better or worse. IMHO it's worse from a legal constraining point and a
family supportive point. Used to get your butt busted at school and again
when you got home. Never dreamed of getting a lawyer.
Then the school board is dysfunctional as well - maybe worse, in fact..
Central to the emotional disagreements are racial divisions. If you apply
logic and it doesn't support the center city viewpoint then you're a racist.
Gets old listening to this broken record. There's always going to be the
poor, the privileged, and the middle class in between. The environments of
each strata come with the turf. Objective leadership with diverse inputs is
far more constuctive than this subjective partisanship - regardless of which
race or strata. There's Affluence and Influence. By a higher standard those
with Influence should be effectively using it to help those without
And that situation is not unique to the "South". Raised as a poor kid in
Kentucky I understood that if my lot in life was to improve it would have to
be because of my efforts. I never dreamed that anybody owed me anything just
because of where or how I was born. Whether abandoned as a baby or shot and
crippled as a young adult or broken in half as an older adult I never
expected anyone to improve my situation for me.
As I've aged I've found that charity for others is part of the journey as
well. Each year I choose organizations that apply their resources to
educating, enabling, and lifting the standards of those less fortunate. For
example, Habitat for Humanity is a program aimed at enablement - not
entitlement. The old give a job instead of a meal thing.
Accountability, acceptance of responsibility and consequences, for our
actions or present condition determines the mindset that wants to "make it
happen" or the one who explains all the things or people (including
teachers) who kept it from happening. He "gave" me an F, as opposed to "I
got an F." Some might call this maturing.
This applies not just to education. The internalized values and attitudes
are the core disease and things like education, out of control materialism,
excessive debt, selfcenteredness, and such are the outward symptoms. The
answer, in part, is to have more role models and mentors in each race and
strata that have strong, constructive character traits and are willing to
publicly exhibit them. As opposed to positions that are fashionable at the
And, this is not a disguise for right-wing fanaticism :) It's a simple,
middle-of-the-road observation. The problem with that is then each extreme
views you as part of its opposition since you're left or right of them :-)
Whew!! Sorry for the length, folks. Have some warm and loving holidays! And
give of yourself as well as your affluence.
> The US education system is rotting from the greed and arrogance of the
> educrats, a teaching staff poorly educated themselves, and the
> spawn of irresponsible parents they practice on.
Without a doubt, the US educational system is broken.
There is plenty of blame to go around.
A lack of competition has had a devastating effect not only on school
administrations, but also on teacher's unions.
There is little or no incentive to deliver a better product, namely an
educated human being.
CYA runs rampant, the mark of bloated operations.
However, the ultimate failure lies squarely at the feet of the
community who pays the bills.
Our society has been willing to accept sub standard product.
Until parents accept their responsibility to be parents, we as a
society, have a problem.
As Walt Kelley once said using his POGO comic strip, "... we have met
the enemy and it is us."
I did most of my undergraduate and graduate school a few years after
graduating from high school and after being married and having two
children. I think that the biggest difference between people doing
that and those going directly to college from HS is that I was going
to school for a purpose while most kids were going to school because
mom & dad were paying for a "vacation". Intelligence didn't have
nearly as much to do with it as a purpose (not to mention that I
wasn't spending all my time going to football games and keggers).
Dave Hall wrote:
> I did most of my undergraduate and graduate school a few years after
> graduating from high school and after being married and having two
> children. I think that the biggest difference between people doing
> that and those going directly to college from HS is that I was going
> to school for a purpose while most kids were going to school because
> mom & dad were paying for a "vacation". Intelligence didn't have
> nearly as much to do with it as a purpose (not to mention that I
> wasn't spending all my time going to football games and keggers).
An active social life is just as much a part of the collegiate
experience as the classroom, IMHO.
Did my undergraduate work at a downtown, "street car" school which
means the bulk of the student body lived at home and commuted to class
The typical collegiate life did not exist.
While I went directly from HS to college, at least half my classmates
had spent a couple of years in Korea.
Most, including myself, held down part time jobs, while carrying a
full course load.
One guy worked a full 40 hour week, carried a full course load, and
managed to graduate summa cum laude with an electrical engineering
degree.(BTW, he went on to be president of the gas company).
These guys were on a mission. They had lost a few years, and didn't
have time to waste.
Needless to say, it had an impact on my life.
Today's youth face a totally different world.
Some how the will muddle thru, but we are sure as hell making it
difficult for them by not demanding they receive an opportunity to
earn a better education.
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