I'm running out of options in the appropriate arenas, so into the WW group I go.
Using verizon newserver to access groups now days since it's included in the DSL subscription.
Trying to access from a non DSL connected PC.
Worked fine Dec 15; turned PC off, went on "vacation". Come back Jan 2, turn PC on, start getting error 10060, connection refused.
Everyone says it the other's problem.
What I've found out.
We're not blocking the news server here. I'm assuming it's not some new malicious virus that targets news (do have McAfee). Other news portals (e.g. microsoft) work. Verizon works from the DSL PC (i.e. their server is functioning). Nothing changed on the PC (it was off). SW not reconfigured, etc. I'm using Agent.
One guess was that verizon changed their server so access wasn't available unless you were on the DSL'd PC. Their attempt at "help" was a canned response, not really related to my issue.
Last time this happened (error 10060), the verizon server was down. Not this time.
| One guess was that verizon changed their server so access wasn't | available unless you were on the DSL'd PC. Their attempt at "help" | was a canned response, not really related to my issue.
Sounds like the Verizon server handling dial-in connections is either misconfigured for authentication or has a DNS problem. I would guess it's an authentication problem.
They routinely (most IPS's) deny/block nntp connection to any computer that is not using an ip address from their assigned block of ip addresses.
If it worked before, you're lucky ... One of my companies is on Verizon DSL service after 15 years of being passed down from UUNET to WorldCom to MCI to Verizon, etc., ad infinitum ... this latest bunch of idiots, Verizon, SUCK the worst!
I have Verizon DSL service. My plan does not include dial-up access.
"Verizon's Remote Dial-up Internet Access is a great way to stay connected while on the go. If your DSL package does not include this service, you can add Remote Dial-up Internet Access for a small monthly fee."
snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news:1168268469.102381.44310@
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It's not included in the basic service. Not supposed to be, anyhow.
Comcast cable network is the same way, so I don't post from the road, and read through Google, if I'm interested.
How goes the kitchen project? I'm about 75% of the way through the faceframes on my daughter-in-laws kitchen. Drawers & doors to go. Floor, boxes, appliances, countertops, sink & plumbing, electrical all done.
I'd forgotten how much work this was, in the dark, cold part of the year.
I've used dedicated newsreaders in the past. One day I was on a computer that didn't have a reader so I tried google. It did everything I needed so I stuck with google. Another good thing about google is that it is easy to search groups (and they know a thing or two about searching!).
Google is also preparing a new interface for its news reader, which might convince some people to become "switchers".
I'm gonna cry. You wanna come over and help me catch up? I haven't even started the "infrastructure". Though, this time, if the price is right, I may just hire an electrician and have it done in a day instead of a week (or so).
Cold and dark part of year is ok since I spent most of the warm and sunny part outside and eternally delayed getting started on this project. The stove's out of warranty and hasn't even had an ounce of gas flowing to it.
Do you work in your (unheated) garage?
I keep thinking I'll hit a milestone "this weekend". For the last several weekends.
Not that progess is being made but as you say, "I'd forgotten how much work this was".
What I recall is that it took me a couple hours to "slap together" a cabinet. Hah! Time musta passed more slowly back then.
Actually, I think things are going well, and reasonably "fast", but I've just been overly optimistic on the time it would take. As usual.
I gotta stop setting deadlines based on how things SEEM to be going - before a curve of some sort is thrown my way, or I "forget" some of the steps that need to be gone thru to get to the finished product.
I have the upper cabinets almost done (and they've been "almost" for about 3 weeks now). But, really, they may get their exteriors lacquer sprayed this weekend.
Last night I was fitting the doors and discovered that I had drilled thru the door when I was adding the extra holes for the plastic dowel that comes w/the Hettich hinges I bought. I thought it was going awful deep, but ASSUMED I'd had it set properly and it hadn't changed. Gotta remeber - ALWAYS double check if you've been away for a bit.
Additionally, the "system" I'd hoped to set up to easily duplicate repetitive tasks (like installing hinges, for example) isn't working out as well as planned. Mainly, 'cause the defective drill press messed things up. So, I gotta individually check each hinge cup hole and lay out the other pieces accordingly. Forget using the jig I made.
Anyway, I'll try to post some pics on pic.ww'g as soon as the uppers are done. Done, in the shop, not hanging on the wall.
I figure base cabinets won't be as time consuming. All the pieces are cut, just gotta be assembled. Then I start the tearout (by end of month?) of the old cabinets (uppers are already down), soffits, wallpaper; redo electrical; move some plumbing (minor - ref water line); insulate the outside wall (for some reason they seem to not have insulated the end wall - that faces north!) w/isocyanurate; etc. I'll build the drawers after the cabinets are in, though I'll mount the slides before I assemble the cabs.
I'm aiming to be done by April 3.
Still having fun though (most of the time) and don't regret going the custom route. Just anxious to see (and use) it all together.
Having to resort to google, I find it's not as bad as I expected. Not as good as Agent, but tolerable.
Vrzn is supposedly working on the issue. Had to call 'em back since 24 hours passed and it was still failing. Spoke with a supervisor who said he wrote a real trouble ticket and they would address the issue. Can't have V interfering w/NASA's ability to send people to the moon, now can we? ;-)
That said, still debating on whether to shell out the 40 bucks to reactivate my newsguy account because the retention period is way longer, for one.
Funny, I used Agent (the pay one) for years. After going to Google I can't see how I put up with Agent. Everything is just so much easier to do, and I can do it from anywhere. Binary NG's are still better in Agent of course. But then I don't even think you can use them in Google.
Get a Google account, it really is the best way to the wreck. As for the OP, ISP's typically do not let you get to their NNTP or SMTP servers unless you are on "their" network.
To each his own, I guess. Having used NewsXpress, I can't imagine how anybody puts up with Google.
You have a curious definition of "everything", because, as you note below, you can't access binary groups _at_all_ through Google.
Your definition of "everything" doesn't appear to include killfiles and filters, either.
Quite true -- one reason I don't use Google Groups except to look up something in the past. It's a fine archive, but for reading current posts, it sucks.
I guess you haven't been around here long enough to see any of the troll attacks that hit a couple times a year.
Well I might try that, as I prefer Google to Agent.
I agree that Google badly needs a killfile feature. It is the only serious newsreader feature that I miss.
It doesn't have a .sig feature either, but probably on balance, that's a good thing.
With Google I can do an ego search to see who has replied to my articles and when reading a thread I can sort by date to see if there are any new additions. Google also follows threads across newsgroups.
With Google, the troll attacks in rec.woowdorking haven't been a problem. The dipfloods (DOS attacks) on news.admin.net-abuse.email were for a while but I think Google may have learned to kill those as recently I have read about there being new attacks but have seen neither hide nor hair of them.
For one, google doesn't distinguish if a thread has been added to (w/new replies). If I've accessed a thread, it shows on the list in a different color (as w/any website) and there seems to be no distinction if new stuff has been added (such as this thread). Pain in the keester.
Well, my bottom line is that Verizon has realized the error of their ways - not in my favor. They fixed their server so that non-Verizon IPs cannot access their services and I'm gonna have to subscribe to newsguy to access news from anywhere but home. Just debating if I want to wait another couple weeks for my credit card to roll over.
snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@77g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
The fun is the most important part. Your story reminded me of some friends of ours, whose addition and kitchen remodel took them somewhere close to seven years. I'm certain that isn't the longest time in wReck memory.
I've done nothing much since I wrote the last note on the kitchen project. Work took me to the East Coast, and I got only a little routing and sanding on the face frames between interruptions and prep. But Monday is sort of a holiday. I can get something done then.
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