I signed up right off the git go and my phone has only rang twice from
telemarketers since. They were both informed that they would be reported
and they were. I hope they enjoyed their $11,000 fines.
I signed up the very first morning we were able to. I kind of lost track of
where the national DNC list is with the legal challenges, but the North Carolina
attorney general has said he is going to enforce the NC list irregardless, which
gets its data from the national list. Bottom line: I don't get any calls
anymore. As far as I'm concerned, the list has been a great success.
I've never understood why the telemarketers fought the list so hard. Why would
they want to talk to me, when I'm so hostile to them? If I want to buy
something, I'll go look for it myself. I'm not going to buy something off the
telephone sight unseen. That just ain't gonna happen.
I haven't gotten any sales calls since October that I remember, but I
get endless 'survey' calls now. Everyone wants my opinion now and
they aren't bound by the 'do-not-call' list.
So I always give them my honest opinion. They suck and can go to
I use the following:
I recorded it as the first part of my outgoing message. Then if I get a
name I do not know on the Caller ID, I let the answering machine get it.
Their autodialer detects the line being disconnected and they drop the call
so I do not get a blank message on the machine plus they my number remove
from their list. I have been using this for about 6 months plus I put
myself on the do not call list. I only get 5-6 calls a week but with the
political process starting to crank up, I expect that everyone will be
getting more calls. It basically similar to the box that Radio Shack sells
but FREE :-)
Good Luck Everyone.
BTW thanks for all the help on the Rec. I read regularly and have learned
allot. Keep up the great posts.
Our phone is not listed in the no call list. We pay the phone company
to have our phone number remove from the phone books. Occasionally, we
still have telemarketing calling in the evening. This evening I
received call from a finance company pouring out his shit.
I screwed him, he laughs and pretty soon we were screwing one another.
This goes on for more than 10 minutes. I realize that this smart alex
will go on forever. So, I call my kid aloud (so the telemarketer could
hear) and ask him to use the other phone and call the cop to trace
the the caller since his phone ID is "Unknown."
The caller immediately hangs up. Some of you may say I deserve it.
Yes, I am wrong to screwed him, but how do you stop them? Listing our
phone to the no call list will only add our phone to the lists of
other authorized caller lists. I believe telemarketing and legitimate
company will think twice calling, if their ID is available on all
I seldom get calls now instead of the 1-3 an evening I was getting so it
seems to be working for me. I don't think you should feel guilty about
playing with the telemarketers, they called you to help you out didn't they?
At least that's what they usually told me. I figured I didn't need new
storm windows (or whatever), but I might be in the mood for a little
entertainment. I'd ask them questions, debate with them, ask them how they
tested their windows to make the claim of being the best, etc. Usually I
just say not interested and hang up, but every now and then I'm in the mood
to play with them. No, I do not have an ounce of guilt about it. Maybe you
just need more time for the no call list to kick in?
Larry C in Auburn, WA
"WD" < firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
I get very few nowadays.
Screwing with them may make you feel good, but as a prectical matter, I
ALWAYS tell them immediately and in very clear language that I would like to
placed on THEIR "do not call" list.
Not all telemarketers are from unscrupulous companies. I beleive that to
some degree companies are required by law to maintain such lists.
Nothing will help with unscrupulous callers.... But I beleive that this
approach helps. It certainly can not hurt.
Although it may not feel as good, I beleive it does more to cut down on
subsequent calls than "Screwing with them"
I love that tactic. We moved about 2 years ago. Temp housing for a month, with
a phone we needed to card to get long distance on. Oldest kid has the same deal
with "unknown". Her Mom couldn't talk to her until she e-mailed her that she
was calling. Jesus wept. With the bouncing around in the past 2 years, that
problem has cropped up at least 15 times, including one when I tried to call my
wife from an Ottawa hotel room while she was at the oldest kid's. I think once
more from Disney down in Orlando, too.
I don't think it's really a great solution, obviously. Basically, a PITA unless
your family all use the same phone numbers all the time or are in the local
"All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is
I also used the tactic of avoiding UNKNOWN i.d.'s for years 'till the
do not call list came into play. Heck, that was my main motive for
having Caller ID.
My parents use calling cards (AT&T I think, whatever SAM's &
WallyWorld peddle)to call me long distance and I noticed one thing:
The telemarketers ID shows "UNKNOWN --- --- ----" while the calling
card call shows "UNKNOWN 123-456-7890" or some other random number. So
instead of a telephone number or random number, a telemarketer would
show just dashes (or no numbers at all on my other caller ID). Don't
know if this still is the case, but it had been this way for years.
One minor detail to remember about no call lists. If the sale does not
occur over the phone then it is not prohibited by the law. If they are
asking to come over and give you a quote, then they don't have to worry
about the no call list. Also, if you already have a business relationship
with the company, then the don't call list doesn't cover you.
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:13:09 GMT, "Larry C in Auburn, WA"
I have two questions:
1. I believe if you request your phones be removes from the
Telemarketer calling list and if they persist calling, you can sue
them under a certain law? Can you or anyone tell me more about it?
2. If we listed our phones with the NCL and if a telemarketer calls
without an ID, how am I going complain to FCC, what proof do I have?
HOW DO YOU GET THE PROOF TO REGISTER A COMPLAIN?
Lastly, I would love to sue AT&T (They keep calling me regularly), I
still cannot forget how they gouge me in the late 90's.
Twice last week I had rocket scientists telemarketers call and I ended
up asking them to repeat their phone numbers and names of companies
and both obliged! www.donotcall.gov got the data also.
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:45:21 GMT, email@example.com (Doug Miller)
Yes, you can sue them, but it's pretty difficult to prove that you
told them to remove you from their list. Basically, it's your word
That's the problem. Before the NCL went into effect, I'd have
telemarketers who absolutely refused to give me their names. I'd tell
them to take me off their lists and give me their names and they'd
That is exactly what I mean! Every Telemarketer knows about it.
I remember a called, when this guy actually turns on the speaker.
You can hear the laugher and enjoyment in the background.
I would love to sue them and make them pay for the enjoyment!
This is because telemarketers do not use phone listings. Most of
them use automated dialing systems that call all the numbers
in a given area. The systems hang up when they here the
beep-dee-boop tones of a "not in service" message. They also
now skip numbers on the do not call list.
Uh, where did you get this idea? I put my number on the national
do not call list as soon as it became available. I almost never
get any of these calls. I don't think I've had more than 1 since
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