I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really
pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
company, and 3 calls from my brother.
I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***
On 05/03/08 01:08 am firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
The Do Not Call list does not apply to:
Private individuals, e.g., your ex, your brother;
Political and charitable organizations;
Businesses with which you have an established relationship, e.g., your
bank and insurance company.
Sounds you might just as well cancel your phone service. Is there anyone
you *do* want to allow to call you?
On Sat, 03 May 2008 07:48:40 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
I look at the caller ID and let the answering machine get if, if I see
1. known annoying caller
2. no caller ID
3. CID blocked
4. unfamiliar business name
5. toll-free number (unless recognized caller)
6. strange, inhuman CID (such as: TSTA)
Businesses that hide behind these holes very seldom leave a message on
an answering machine. That makes it look like their products or
services are so bad that no one able to think about it would want
a congress member wants a do not call list for junk mail. I support
that, tiring of a 30 gallon trash bag weekly of unwaned junk mail.
the post office head said no way you will put us out of business.
postal service junk mail pays most of the bills.... first class mail
would go up in cost.
poastal service unions have a no layoff clause, so less mail wouldnt
Maybe if we ALL did this they would stop putting these things in magazines
as well? I sent potato peelings one time as I was peeling potatoes at the
time and it struck me as funny to send them some of my junk as they send me
Put a lot in there. Enough so that it goes over the one ounce limit, and
then they have to pay to get the letter. I'm starting to do that, and put
RETURN TO SENDER on the outside when I don't have the time to properly mess
The ones with postpaid business reply envelopes:
Load them up. I mean REALLY load them up. Stuff other junk mail in them.
I've torn up cereal boxes, dumped ash trays, scraps of wood & metal,
twisties, whatever is around. Nothing illegal, dangerous or unhealty,
etc. that could come back at you. Make it VERY fat and heavy till you
need wide package tape just to keep it from bursting open. They have to
pay the postage for overthick & overweight.
Make sure their junk mail is in there in tact with your address.
So how did you make out with RETURN TO SENDER? I tried that recently
because I am FLOODED with charitable solicitations, sometimes
5-6x/annum from the same outfit. What happens, I found out to my
sorrow, is that each charity/organization I donate to -- I send small
checks/membership renewals to many -- sells or exchanges its list with
'n' others, no matter in some cases if you tell them not to.
The result is an unending torrent of letters, some -- amusingly enough
-- from organizations I OPPOSE!
Yes, I tried recently to put REFUSED RETURN TO SENDER, but
the carrier dropped them back through the slot. I called the Post
Office. The lady said that if I refuse mail, they will stop
delivering!! Whatthell is THAT about?
For the nonce, the junque is going back into the recycling, but that
does not address the issues: Killing trees [environmental
degradation; paper-making is one of the most chemically polluting
technologies] to create junque that is sent by air [carbon] and
sorted at several stages involving transportation [carbon] and
delivered by carriers whose load might well be lighter if...
If someone more ambitious than moi could clarify the postal regs
involving RETURN TO SENDER - perhaps REFUSED was
the deal breaker? - we could all profit.
Or they get a donation from you and somehow decide they will get another
one if they send you a solicitation each week. The way I stopped that is
by using $0.35 money orders. They get the money but nothing to enter
into their database(s) for future use.
Capitalist pig - why do we all have to profit?
A while back I needed to stop a lot of junk mail to a business. I was
told "REFUSED" is the magic word. I printed stickers and added a more
descriptive 2nd line. 1st class is returned. Some of the cheap bulk mail
isn't (I don't know which) - so trying to return it just creates
problems for the PO.
This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved credit
card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards. I sent two
back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted. So, I
started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards. (I
already have one.) They kept sending them and sending them. I have 10
Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really
high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees. Every month, I
rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once
every 12 months to keep them active. I can now afford open heart surgery
at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.
So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
interest, no charges.
One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....
It's my understanding -- open to correction -- that applying for many
credit cards is detrimental to one's credit rating. The thinking of
the Big Three rating organizations is that somebody who needs
that many credit cards might be a little shaky in the finance
department, so they need to keep bouncing from card to card.
I would genuinely like KNOWLEDGEABLE input on whether
this philosophy of the rating orgs. is valid. (Personally, I stick to
about 2 or 3 -- why more?)
BTW: Doesn't the above message echo some of the attitude
that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously?
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