OT: Gas shortage

May 13, 2021 Last reply: 5 years ago 169 Replies

One may look back with lament, or look forward with hope.

What "trillions" were spent to kill nuclear energy?

Start with all of the anti nuclear ads that have been run in the last 70 year. What bout all of the groups that spent money to kill nuclear energy. What about ........................... The list goes on and on.

Cleaning up the fuel is a political problem. Many solutions are know, all of them meet massive political resistance.

The problem with portable reactors is shielding.

None of that adds up to trillions, or billions - likely much closer to a million... drop in the bucket.

Indeed. The peanut farmer from GA couldn't tell the difference between commercial nuclear fuel and weapons reprocessing. He's the one that put the edict in the the NRC was not to license reprocessing facilities in the US and killed the Clinch River Breeder Reactor Project.

GE had already invested $10s of M $$ and was planning to build a nearly $1B reprocessing plant for commercial US fuel at Savannah River at the time...

Apparently his major experience with nuclear energy was cleaning up the mess after a Canadian experimental reactor failed. If I understand the time line correctly he finished 4 months of nuke school and left the Navy to become a peanut farmer. Nonetheless he and the press managed to lead us to believe that he had commanded a nuclear sub.

Exact same happened to me several years ago. I think every thing is fine until..... ;~)

FWIW, in Texas, possibly for the rest of the country, it is illegal to store gasoline in anything that is not approved for gasoline storage.

But is that possibly because every one decided to fill their tanks because they heard there was a shortage?

Wasn't peanut guy the one that was on watch when Iran made American citizens hostage until Reagan was elected? Was'nt he the one that fumbled the switch to metric? HE WAS THE ONE that said that America's good days are behind her and the we should not expect for life to be as good as it had been.

Talk about a looser throwing in the towel!!

He was really no more than an interim president, kind'a like the one we have now.

But I only have 1 oil well in my back yard. ;~)

Some of my neighbors may be excperiencing a "gas shortage" but we're of the "Fill at 1/2 tank" mindset and my truck was at 3/4 tank and my wife's vehicle between 1/2 and 3/4 tank when the nearest gas station went dry. We're good for some days on what's in the vehicles, then there's the 15+ gallons of treated gas in the shed out back with the lawn equipment and the generator.

With the "experts" saying 5 to 7 days for recovery from each day the pipeline was shut down, that's about 30 days to get back to normal stocks of fuel. We're Ok with that. Are you?

His expressed intent at the time was to impress upon the N Koreans the US wasn't in the weapons business even though there's no practical connection between commercial recycling and weapons enrichment/production. We all can see how well that worked to control their entrance into the "nuclear club".

I'd forgotten about the NRX incident -- interestingly, it was in December, 1952, just a month after he had begun a temporary duty assignment at the Naval Reactor branch, but then was already back in the States to start nuclear power school in March, 1953, while the rebuilding of the NRX reactor took over a year. Looks like Rickover thought him "the most expendable kid on the block" to ship him off at the time.

Since he finished at Annapolis in 1946, there was no such thing as a Nuclear Engineering degree program anywhere yet at the time. KSU had the first accredited NE undergraduate degree program in 1958 where I got my BSNE ('68).

An interesting letter to editor of WSJ about the subject is at

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I'm not sure I want to be driving around on several pounds of plutonium.

What gas shortage? My truck has been in the driveway all week (with

3/4 tank). I saved enough to go to Woodcraft this weekend. ;-)

Not buying that one. Gasoline would eat them up.

I saw a video of that one. Obviously not a DOT approved container. I hope he realizes that that's about 3000 lbs of gasoline, maybe more. Look at his suspension now, and it's only half full.

Sounds like a FOAF story but I've seen it elsewhere.

They started up the pipeline yesterday. Everything should be fine in a couple of days. Back to normal within a week. Gas is available now (check Gas Buddy).

Not happening.

I wonder how happy his insurance company is going to be. I wonder if the cops (Homeland Security?) had a chat with him.

Yes but they do want you driving around with a load of Lithium. Safer by a pretty good margin but.

It is. It's also a federal DOT reg. I believe approved containers have to be red, as well.

Your comment reminds me of the safe pharmaceutical that had a 8000 gallon tan of Ethylene Oxide on the outside of the building wall. It things went different and that thing exploded it would have taking out the several acre building, and many of the surrounding homes.

OR The tank farm a few miles from our house, It is the petroleum distribution point for out area. There are over a dozen 240 thousand gallon tanks. Imagine that thing getting out of hand.

There are many radioactive compounds other than Plutonium that could be used in the "nuclear" electrical unit.

I live in N. Georgia (far SW Atlanta metro area). Many stations have gas but many of them have 10gal limits.

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