O/T: Knee Jerk

No, you're not.

First, many employers only offer one choice.

Second, non-employer sponsored plans will cost the employee much, much more than the employer sponsored plan; and the employee may not be able to afford it (note that the current figure for the average family employer plan is $13k per year between the employer and employee for premiums).

scott

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Scott Lurndal
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one changes insurance companies by changing employers, if it's that important to the person. if it's a government 'insurance' company, i would suppose one would have to emmigrate to change.

no one said either would be easy or have drawbacks.

Reply to
charlie

In their mind, you should just change employers. People like Tim, and Robots like HeyBub (who is too ashamed of his positions to post with his real name) think people are just resources that get slotted in wherever they are needed; whereas most people actually get jobs that they _like_, and resent being reslotted for whatever reason or being treated as interchangable parts in some vast machine.

It's the old Repubs favor the freedom of business to do whatever they want, and Dems favor the freedom of individuals to do whatever they want.

scott

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Scott Lurndal

Some observations:

  1. I don't post with my real name because I change it often. The email address is, however, real. If you send a polite request, I'll be pleased to provide the name I'm using this week.
  2. "Old Repubs" favor business being able to contract with a willing seller of labor and conditions of work for an agreed on wage.
  3. I agree that Dems favor freedom of individuals to do CERTAIN things (smoke dope, marry the same sex, burn the flag, etc.) but they are, by no means, libertarians. For example, most liberals favor a woman using a name other than her real one (which is okay by me inasmuch as she's taking the name of TWO men instead of the traditional one). Oops.
Reply to
HeyBub

Yes you are. If you don't like the POS you're driving, you can buy another car. The difference between a used Pinto and a new Lamborghini is one of price, not the availability of the choice.

You can even self-insure!

Reply to
HeyBub

If the company is providing the insurance then it belongs to the company and covers you. The same as any company policy, you live with it or look elsewhere. If you don't like the way the company is being run then, for many reasons, it is best if you look elsewhere. Because if you are right and it it is being badly run, then you may be out of work if you stay. I read some where that a recent graduate will have 6 jobs in the next 20 years.

Reply to
Keith Nuttle

That must get expensive!

Reply to
Nova

You certainly have an active imagination. I'm not going to allow you to drag me into this argument, though.

Reply to
Doug Miller

Thre is more than one employer.

There is more than one employer. If you don't like you're benefits package you are free to look elsewhere. If the employer has a crappy benefit plan he won't have employees.

Reply to
krw

Nooooow I understand: The rest of us should pay for the kind of healthcare you want so you can work in a place that you like and be free of "resentment". What a marvelous worldview...

Reply to
Tim Daneliuk

Har! Now that's funny!

Reply to
Upscale

Maybe, but it makes life interesting. However, if you want to go on record as being a supporter of Daneliuk, don't let me stand in your way. Personally, I don't like trying to make my way through the traffic on an eight lane highway.

Reply to
Upscale

A good start would be to filter everyone who posts in alt.home.repair.

Regards,

Tom Watson

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Tom Watson

Call it special consideration. Two friends of mine are/were cops. One made it to Deputy Chief here in Sarnia. Photographed Angela's and my wedding, after all he had shot some crime scenes before... He's retired now. The other works financial crimes for the OPP. Very interesting thing he's got there.

Reply to
Robatoy

I suppose there is a possibility that it is funny, as you have demonstrated in the past that somehere, deep-down, amongst the rubble of misguided insanity, there lies a sense of humour.

Reply to
Robatoy

There IS a parallel universe! One where theory works out in practice.

Some of us may be in a trade or profession that allows changing jobs at will, but most folks don't have that choice. Especially in a market where there's 100 applicants for every job opening.

I was one of the lucky ones until I retired. But even then I found that it became more and more difficult as I got older. After 50 it was almost impossible.

As an example, try to put yourself in the shoes of a 50 year old retail sales clerk whose employer has just cut benefits. You inquire about openings at other stores and get responses like "you're overqualified" or "we're looking for a trainee". You check into buying your own insurance for yourself and family and find it would cost more than your housing and food. Are you "free"?

Reply to
Larry Blanchard

It's worse than that. The Republicans rate saving the environemnt, increasing workplace safety, providing a living wage, etc., below making money. "You can't do ......, it'll cut my profits." What do they care, they'll be dead by the time the shit hits the fan.

Reply to
Larry Blanchard

what a remarkable strawman. I'm really struggling to see how you can translate what I said into what you said.

Reply to
Scott Lurndal

I merely provided a short list of

My list of names had nothing to do with people that START off topic conversation. The list was of people that PARTICIPATE in off topic conversation, and you are definitely on the list.

Filtering only the person that started an off topic thread would get him nowhere.

Reply to
Jack Stein

Yeah, that's OLD for sure. The absolute last way to provide individual freedom is by empowering government. Neither todays Dems nor Repubs have any plan on reducing government. You seem to be lost in left wing, socialist bastard drivel that is today the domain of both Democratic AND Republican parties.

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Jack Stein

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