And does whatever they were denied come out of the same part of the
budget? The notion that "if we cut this program then this other group
will be able to have more money" is a virgin's hope. Government
agencies don't work that way.
So you're saying that every time a ship is lost the owners should pay
the entire cost of the rescue? And I bet every time a house catches
fire the owner should pay the entire cost of the fire department coming
to put it out, and when some guy is getting mugged the cops shouldn't
help him until he whips out his wallet and pays them for the service.
Real nice world you want to create.
It has not been the habit of governments to bill ship owners for the
cost of rescue.
So the fire department where you live bills you for the cost of putting
out the fire?
I'm just going by what you've said. Search and rescue is a tax funded
government function in most places that have it, like a fire department
or a police department. If you want the rescuees to be billed by search
and rescue why do you want them to be singled out? Why do you not want
fire victims to be billed by the fire department or crime victims to be
billed by the police? Why is it only search and rescue for which the
victims must pay?
A fishing boat is picking her up - and they stay out until full.
She might be on a boat a long time waiting for port. Then - which port.
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On 6/11/2010 5:22 AM, Han wrote:
I'm glad she is ok, already there were rumblings of removing
parents heads. She is a sailor from a sailing family, I don't believe
what she was doing was inherenly more dangerous than the way
I lived my teenage years, without me accomplishing a damn thing.
I know nothing about sailing or sail boats, but I thought the mast could
be laid down in bad weather and with everything sealed up a good sail
boat could withstand hurricane force weather.
Could you enlighten the unknowing?
Those who know a little about sailing thought this voyage was in
trouble before it even started. The boat was not properly equipped
(huge understatement) for a circumnavigation, and she departed at
about the worst possible time. Leaving California in January, put her
in the notorious Indian Ocean just as the worst season there (winter)
began. That was about as bad a plan as possible. Her reason for
leaving at such a bad time was so she could set a particular record.
If she waited to sail at the right time, when conditions would be as
favorable as possible, she would be too old to claim that idiotic
The way she did many things made it far more dangerous than it needed
Boats on which the mast can be laid down have that feature for going
under bridges or the like, not because it is beneficial to do so in bad
weather--the sails are one's power source--if you take down the mast you
have no propulsion and no control.
A good sail boat well handled and with sea room can usually survive any
kind of bad weather, however it will often suffer damage in the process.
Too much damage and it becomes unmanageable. And Poseidon can kill
_any_ ship if he gets angry enough.
it usually takes a crane to pull a mast on any reasonably large sailboat.
in almost all cases, a catamaran will be found floating abandoned after a
dismasting, sometimes years later. they almost never sink as they don't hang
a heavy chunk of lead on the bottom like monohulls.
Boat up to about 25 ft can have what is known as a tabernacle mast
which can be dropped on the deck without a crane.
Common in some parts of Europe for navigating the canals.
If the boat rolled, the chances of losing a mast increase
In addition, if a shroud (cable that holds up the mast) or shroud
fitting failed, chances are good that would take the mast.
Faced with the weather she had, the usual practice is to "Heave To"
where the jib sail is backwinded and the rudder is turned to oppose
The boat just bobs along.
You lose ground, but both you and the boat survive.
IMHO, this whole trip was a disaster waiting to happen as a result of
She left L/A far too late. (January)
Prudent seamanship would have been to depart Dec 1 from San Diego or
Thanksgiving from L/A which is after hurricane season, pass the "Horn"
New years Day and head East.
Machinery and sailboats are mutually exclusive IMHO.
Choosing not to use a windvane self steering as opposed to a power
electro/hydraulic autopilot was just plain fool hardy IMHO.
When they started crapping out and she was forced to make port in
all weather window was lost.
Choosing to sail in the Southern ocean in the winter comes under the
PPP, (Piss Poor Planning).
Dismasted?? Is that a word?
Yep, I looked it up, it is a word.
Sound painful. It must have been trumatic. What kind of forces must be
brought to bear to break a mast? Those things are pretty sturdy. It must of
been really rough seas. She is lucky to be alive.
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