RE: O/T: Reflections

Jan 04, 2015 42 Replies

The week between Christmas and New Years marks the time I moved from Ohio to Los Angeles at the end of 1989.



A lot has changed.



I left Ohio 12/26/89 and started driving South/West along I-71 and I-70 never getting out of 4th gear since the roads were so slick as attested to by the collection of cars and busses that had spun out and into the median from the storm the day before.



It wasn't until Indianapolis that I felt comfortable in 5th gear.



After that, the roads were clear and the weather began to warm.



I walked out into the court yard of my complex today to see a sign posted that this was a NO SMOKING facility.



Imagine that, a common outdoor area denoted as a NO SMOKING area.



I remember trying to get a table in a NO SMOKING area of a restaurant on a Saturday night and being told they didn't have one.



My how times have changed.



It was a long and tough war that was fought against big tobacco, led by a Los Angeles city councilman whose name I don't remember but to whom I will forever be indebted.



As an ex nicotine addict, I am convinced that nicotine is the most addictive drug on the planet. Other than alcohol, I've never used addictive drugs BUT I'm convinced nicotine is the most addictive.



Monday starts a new business year, the weather is slated to return to more typical SoCal temps, just like it was when I arrived.



Time marches on.



Lew


So, you didn't say what you paid for gas on your emigration from sanity.

Gosh it was 1989. Could it have been $1.65 (I'm just making a guess for fun)?

Additions:

What I forgot to mention was the absolute explosion of the cell phone, which now has become a hand held computer/camera, the introduction of the internet and GPS.

Lew

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Lew Hodgett" wrote:

-------------------------------------------------- Back then gas was not an issue, I was driving a 4 cyl VW Diesel Rabbit; however, do remember gas being less than $0.90/gal in the early 90's.

Lew

Here are some answers:

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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:54a8bae9$0$42942 $c3e8da3$ snipped-for-privacy@news.astraweb.com:

According to this site:

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your memory is off just a tad. It says gas in CA was les than

0.90 in 86-88. I was surprised, between the taxes and the special low-smog blends required there, I would have thought gas prices were always well over a dollar.

John

On 01/04/2015 10:01 AM, John McCoy wrote: ...

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Check when the reg's went into effect and at what levels of severity...

I did the same from Kentucky to LA in Jan of 1965. My worst weather was coming down the mountain out of Flagstaff. You brought back a lot of memories.

---------------------------------------------------- Spent the night in Flagstaff where it snowed overnight.

Made for an interesting trip down the mountain the next day.

Yes the memories.

Lew

Gas is Gas, Taxes are added to the Gas. Isn't that the point ?

Tax was once so many cents per gallon. Now it is a percentage of the Dollar amount. SO the tax man is crying - less money with lower gas prices. His/her only hope is volume is up high enough to compensate.

Martin

Sorry, but federal and state taxes are a flat amount per gallon, not a percentage of dollar amount per gallon. On gasoline, the average of state and federal tax is $0.42 per gallon.

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It will probably hurt your "river is ris'n" thread too!

---------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry but gas taxes are still so many cents per gallon at all levels of gov't.

The tax man has two reasons to cry.

Car efficiencies are up, thus fewer gallons are burned.

Overall demand is down.

Lew

I guess what I mean is, it probably won't survive the hit.

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1) I didn't arrive in CA until 1990. Might want to verify your source. 2) It's not that expensive to clean up after yourself.

CA been doing it for years.

Lew

That was just a joke, you know!

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:54aa27a4$0$19622 $c3e8da3$ snipped-for-privacy@news.astraweb.com:

The source is .ca.gov, which is a California state government website. It would be hard to find a more authoritative source.

That was my point - Cal has had higher taxes and special pollution regulations for years (heck, there was a time when automakers had to make special California models). So, when prices elsewhere in the US were just under a dollar, I'd have expected Cal to be more different than they were.

John

On 01/04/2015 10:27 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote: ...

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But the _additives_ required aren't and CA requires blends used nowhere else in the country...

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I'd suspect if you go look as suggested that they really were if account for which level of controls were in place at the time in comparison to the rest of the US.

And, much of what CA brags about isn't them "cleaning up after themselves" as much as it is pushing it out of state and then importing the product...power being one prime example.

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