have bussiness ceased?

Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town, probably an hour and a half from Chicago.

Heck, I didn't even know that Chicago was a state. My, how things have changed. :-)

A lot of folks around here would not mind if that was true. (southern Illinois)

Exact opposite? The whole state is *exactly* that. It's controlled by Chicago but it drags the whole state into loonyville. Check their credit rating.

BTW, I didn't come from Cook County either (150ish miles South).

What country is Chicago in?

Hard to tell, could be Mexico, Poland, maybe Russia?

The whole state of Illinois is a southern red state? Are you sure about that? I can't vouch for the rest of IL, but Chicago is a very blue state.

The whole state of Illinois is a southern red state? Are you sure about that? I can't vouch for the rest of IL, but Chicago is a very blue city.

You read what he said wrong, rural southern Illinois tend to red to purple, urban centers blue. But krw has opinions that seems to be about what was versus, what is about Illinois. All negative though but it is only one persons opinion.

Michael Trew snipped-for-privacy@att.net wrote in news:so2voi$96h$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

I've heard good things about Copper Sulfate. A plumber told me about RootX which foams to get the roots at the top of the pipe, unlike the Copper Sulfate. It seems to have done pretty decent...

I found one blockage and ran the snake to the end of the line. Guess it's some new roots that didn't know that pipe wasn't where they were supposed to be. I'll RootX things here in about 6 weeks. (It was suggested to either do it immediately--like within 2 hours--or wait 6 weeks so the plants aren't in defensive stage.)

Puckdropper

Have used copper sulfate in the past it worked on the line to the septic tank, gave about six to twelve months of relief, the root if from a bald cypress and it always came back. Have not used any since the arerator tank was put in. But had Helitech out to fix foundation leak problem, they cut the roots out all the way to the footings. No problem with roots so far.

People's Republic of Illinois

I think I see the disconnect.

Me: "Chicago is hardly red state, anywhere in the state (can't be)."

You: "Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that."

Me: "_hardly_ a red state" (emphasis added).

{My interpretation: The whole state is the opposite of "hardly a red state", meaning that it's "not, not a red state".}

...and the confusion continues. I think we're in violent agreement.

"Downstate is blue/purple" isn't right either.

Wrong. Much of my family lived in IL until very recently (when they finally escaped). My SIL has a teacher's retirement from IL and is worried that the state bankruptcy coming will wipe it out. It's a blue cesspool, on the order of CA. I can see the tax rates and the state is still on the brink of bankruptcy. Yes, it all negative. Deservedly so.

The cities "downstate" are blue. Only the wide, unpopulated spaces between are blue.

Ah, I see.

"Violent agreement", heh

The politicians of this state get the blame for the mess, does not matter that your opinion blames the democrats, our last republican governor sat on his hands and did nothing but drive the state further into debt by his inaction. Big Jim and Jim Edgar both republicans just push the debts off to the future.

We transferred my wife's SURS retirement to safer ground once she retired.

I live here have watched our egotistical self serving government officials feed themselves at the trough and not really give a damn.

Have not seen much better behavior in governments in the USA.

I do not pay income tax in this state, my real estate taxes will drop by 25% this year and the multiplier is frozen.

Sure, there are a lot of RINOs all around the country.

My SIL doesn't have that option.

They exist.

I won't pay any next year and my real estate taxes went down a third last year and another third the year after next. Ours are already pretty low (about .8% of market value), though. OTOH, our property tax when we lived in Vermont was 4% (and .5% in Alabama).

I used to use RootX every 6 months as preventative maintenance since I knew that roots were entering my pipe. That worked for over 5 years and then it didn't.

I called a company that installs sleeves and also does a free scope as part of the estimating process. He determined that the junction between my 65 YO pipe Orangeburg pipe and the PVC that the town install about

For $2500 he could install a 2 foot sleeve at the junction to seal it up, but - believe it or not - he said "Call the town first. They might accept responsibility and do it for free."

I called the town, and sure enough, they knew that the junctions they had installed were failing. About a week later I had a sleeve installed for free.

I would have gladly paid the $2500 to the first guy, but he was nice enough to suggest calling the town. You don't get that kind of service too often these days.

That place that is Ill and inois me?